No More CCD?

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My Catholic parish has stopped having the weekly CCD classes. They say it is better if the parents teach their children Catechism. The church is providing the parents some kind of book and instructions to help them along. Do you think this is a good idea? I fear that many of the parents won’t take it as seriously as a teacher does in a classroom.
 
I’m in no such position to evaluate the needs of a particular parish, but my general impression is that many parents are already failing to catechize their children. While giving them tools and further encouragement is great, I’m not sure if there will be much (if any) added benefit if the church discontinues formal catechesis with dedicated catechizers. I wonder if there may also be budgetary concerns . . .
 
Do they have members of the parish who are willing to teach CCD?
 
Each parish is different. It may seem “untraditional” to some of us reading this thread but we should respect the authority of the pastor in leading his parish. “Home school CCD”, why not? 🙂
 
My Catholic parish has stopped having the weekly CCD classes. They say it is better if the parents teach their children Catechism. The church is providing the parents some kind of book and instructions to help them along. Do you think this is a good idea? I fear that many of the parents won’t take it as seriously as a teacher does in a classroom.
This is perfectly acceptable as long as there is something resembling oversight, checking in, support, regular meetings with the pastor, etc… If it’s just, “Here’s a catechism, you do it.” and that’s it, then something is terribly wrong.
 
It is absolutely not an unknown phenomenon that any number of parents drop their kid(s) off for religious education during a week night, and don’t seem able to get the kid(s) to Mass on Sunday.

Without a whole lot more information as to what was occurring in the parish, and a whole lot more information as to what was said, why, how, how often, and what attending explanations occurred surrounding this decision, everyone on this thread, and those who might read it but not post, are simply left to wild, unsubstantiated speculation.

Will it work?

Has the past procedure - dropping them off on an evening - worked?

Well, as to what has happened in the past, it worked in some circumstances, but the evidence seems to indicate that if the parents have not even enough involvement in Christianity to get their children to Mass on Sunday on a regular basis, the odds are on the wrong side of “poorly”. For those parents who participated, it was relatively effective. For those who didn’t, it was, oh, not so much.

So, for the second time, will it work? In some circumstances, yes, Will more parents participate? Perhaps.

And then, again, perhaps not.

All of which is speculation.

And without substantial facts.
 
It is absolutely not an unknown phenomenon that any number of parents drop their kid(s) off for religious education during a week night, and don’t seem able to get the kid(s) to Mass on Sunday.
When I taught Catechism the sessions were right after Sunday Mass. A good 50% of the kids were dropped off by their parents and neither they nor their parents ever attended Mass. it was a hard year considering the lessons were about looking at Mass through the Bible. Those kids had no point of reference for either.

My present parish has not had regular formal catechesis in 16 years, not since the schools ceased to be denominational. The Diocesan Director of Catechesis at the time convinced the Bishop that a Home-Parish model was the way to go. Unfortunately the families didn’t buy into it because they didn’t feel competent to be their child’s teacher. They weren’t so wrong, catechesis having been rather “fluffy” & “feel good” for a few decades.

Since then we’ve had only sacramental preparation. For the first 8 years we prepared 6&7 year old kids for the combined reception of Confirmation & First Communion. Then, when our diocese was combined with one that confirmed in 10th grade, the Bishop changed the age for both, so Confirmation could now be conferred between 6th and 10th grade. As you can imagine that left us with no one that age who required the sacrament.

Since the merger it had been First Communion preparation only until last year when Fr. himself prepared 10 or 12 kids for Confirmation.
 
We still have faith formation for kids in our parish, but a couple weeks ago when Father was blessing the catechists he also insisted all parents stand up and pointedly said that parents are catechists too. Perhaps there is going to be a broader push from the Church for parents to take a more active role in catechizing their children.
 
We still have faith formation for kids in our parish, but a couple weeks ago when Father was blessing the catechists he also insisted all parents stand up and pointedly said that parents are catechists too. Perhaps there is going to be a broader push from the Church for parents to take a more active role in catechizing their children.
I do wish that the parents were more involved. I too teach CCD and the 12 year old kids don’t know their prayers, let alone go to Sunday Mass. Even if the parents just dropped them off to Mass, it would be better than none. How’re ever, sometimes it’s a cultural thing. These kids are Hispanics, and I think in Mexico church attendance isn’t emphasized though the parents do have them baptized, and have their First Communion and Confirmation. Another thing we’re facing is broken homes and single moms. It’s difficult to teach God the Father, when they don’t identify with a father! When my daughter attended in the 70s at hindsight, I should have taught her at home as then it was all fluff and no substance.

I think it might help if parents or a parent also had to attend maybe a monthly class for them to learn the importance of the Mass because they themselves don’t see it! Many of them were poorly catechized, and if the priests or Deacon, although they’re very busy, could provide some instruction it could help. They won’t get it at Mass, if the parents don’t attend.
 
I do wish that the parents were more involved. I too teach CCD and the 12 year old kids don’t know their prayers, let alone go to Sunday Mass. Even if the parents just dropped them off to Mass, it would be better than none. How’re ever, sometimes it’s a cultural thing. These kids are Hispanics, and I think in Mexico church attendance isn’t emphasized though the parents do have them baptized, and have their First Communion and Confirmation. Another thing we’re facing is broken homes and single moms. It’s difficult to teach God the Father, when they don’t identify with a father! When my daughter attended in the 70s at hindsight, I should have taught her at home as then it was all fluff and no substance.

I think it might help if parents or a parent also had to attend maybe a monthly class for them to learn the importance of the Mass because they themselves don’t see it! Many of them were poorly catechized, and if the priests or Deacon, although they’re very busy, could provide some instruction it could help. They won’t get it at Mass, if the parents don’t attend.
First we catechize ourselves then we catechize others. I like to invite people to join the Church’s journey of faith that the Pope asks all of us to participate in. I share my stories of walking this journey and why I feel it’s important then I relate it to the Gospel readings. The invitation is open to everyone: I’ve just planted the seed for the Holy Spirit to water and grow.
 
I am glad this has not happened at our parish as I am the Asst DRE - and would be out of a job. Our parish is staffed by the Jesuits, who are known for education. We are a large parish (over 3500 families) and we offer quite a few different options for formation of children. We offer traditional (CCD style) classes five different times a week. We offer Montessori based classes four of those times. We offer whole community/family based classes as well as home school programming. We have over 100 students that take advantage of the home school option.

Almost all of our parents learned their Catechisim in a CCD format. It is a cultural pattern that would be difficult to break.
 
It basically sounds like everyone will do what homeschoolers do. Within a couple of years it should be clear if it’s working better than formal Catechism class. But even some homeschoolers bring their kids to my Catechism class simply because I cover stuff they don’t.
 
It basically sounds like everyone will do what homeschoolers do. Within a couple of years it should be clear if it’s working better than formal Catechism class. But even some homeschoolers bring their kids to my Catechism class simply because I cover stuff they don’t.
I think the ones that care enough to do that will probably do a fine job. My concern is for the parents who don’t care enough to catechize their children. I would think there must be a certain percentage of parents that will enroll their kids in CCD that won’t (or can’t) catechize their kids themselves, but without CCD those kids wouldn’t get catechized at all.
 
I think the ones that care enough to do that will probably do a fine job. My concern is for the parents who don’t care enough to catechize their children. I would think there must be a certain percentage of parents that will enroll their kids in CCD that won’t (or can’t) catechize their kids themselves, but without CCD those kids wouldn’t get catechized at all.
In my opinion, it’s the slow deterioration of our American society and culture. There was a time when we farmed our crops, hunted or fished for protein, and harvested materials to build our homes. (Some Alaskan still do but they’re a rare breed now!) There was also a time we cared for our horses not because they were pets but because they were also our main means of transportation. We dug our own wells and pumped our own water. We prepared and buried our own family and friends in areas near our homes. We taught our kids at home and maybe sent them to the single room school house where all grades learned together. We cooked our own meals and sometimes gave to our neighbors if they were having a hard period. We mended our clothes and passed them to others if they were destitute.

America today is a vastly different America than our Founding Fathers established. We primarily pay others to do what we once prided ourselves doing including catechizing our children. We’re so wrapped up in gaining the world, we’re willing to sell our souls for another 50 channels of HD football every Sunday. Change for good does not happen easily; change for bad is easy to fall into and hard to avoid. What type of change can we make in our own lives first before we ask others to change?
 
I’m not optimistic about DIY Catechism. I mean, I’m a longtime, dedicated catechist, and I would not have wanted to be 100% responsible my own kids’ catechesis.
 
I’m not optimistic about DIY Catechism. I mean, I’m a longtime, dedicated catechist, and I would not have wanted to be 100% responsible my own kids’ catechesis.
I’m not sure the Church is going to 100% Catechesis as much as placing a greater emphasis on the role of parents as the primary catechists in the family. I don’t believe pastors or parishes will not support ANYONE in need of catechizing. As a parish catechist, I certainly won’t! 👍
 
I’m not sure the Church is going to 100% Catechesis as much as placing a greater emphasis on the role of parents as the primary catechists in the family. I don’t believe pastors or parishes will not support ANYONE in need of catechizing. As a parish catechist, I certainly won’t! 👍
I don’t know about anyone else but when I started school in 1959 (just about to turn 6) I knew the Lord’s Prayer, the Hail Mary and the Glory Be, the 10 commandments, the precepts of the Church, the Acts of Hope, Love & Charity, the act of Contrition and the Apostles Creed. We recited those every night. I knew the Christmas story, I’d been going to Mass for 2 years (where I came from it was a rare family that brought infants or very young children to Mass) and was following along in a children’s picture Missal. I knew that my parents received Jesus when they went up to receive. Most of my classmates were the same.

Today we get children presenting for First Communion preparation at the age of 7 who know nothing of the above. There’s a good chance that their parents know about the same amount. A good many have hardly ever set foot in church. That’s why home catechesis here is a no-go.
 
The quality of the CCD would be an important consideration. My kids were not learning anything at CCD so I pulled them and its been 100% homeschool catechism for the last few years, with great results.

Just for example, my daughter had to attend a meeting with the priest and the CCD kids a few days before their Confirmation. The priest asked them if the Eucharist was Jesus or merely a symbol. The CCD kids all screamed “It’s just a symbol!” My daughter was the only one who understood the True Presence, but the other kids thought she was kidding them. The priest seemed a little surprised by the poor performance of his faith formation program, but they were all Confirmed a few days later, and I feel that the decision to withdraw them from CCD was a wise choice under our particular circumstances.

On the other hand, if your parish had a great CCD program, it would be a shame to lose it.
 
The OP said: “My Catholic parish has stopped having the weekly CCD classes. They say it is better if the parents teach their children Catechism. The church is providing the parents some kind of book and instructions to help them along.” This sounds to me like the parents are not just the primary catechists, but the only catechists.
 
It would seem that the issue is that there are not enough Faith Formation teachers at this parish. People are busy,……always too busy. I would suggest having conversation with the pastor about this matter and get an exceptional push for CCD teachers. I have specifically come to learn with my busy schedule that teaching, teacheth the teacher!
 
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