No more "Yaweh"

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From the Vatican Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments come new rules prohibiting the use of terms such as “Yaweh” in liturgical celebrations, prayers and songs.

execulink.com/~dtribe/blog/Name%20of%20God.pdf

The key directive states

“In liturgical celebrations, in songs and prayers the name of God in the form of the tetragrammaton YHWH is neither to be used or pronounced.”
 
Interesting. I don’t think I’ve seen this on NLM or WDTPRS say. Slackers!

Update: I’m the slacker… I haven’t gotten around to reading the NLM post yet!
 
Can I ask a little clarification (as I’m involved in the music in our Church). Is this a “law” (will it be contained within the instructions fo rmass?) or a “recommendation”?

(I am not saying I would not take “guidance” or “recommendation” very seriously, but I would like to be quite accurate and precise on the weight of this document.).

Thankyou

Michael

P.S. [added as a P.S. because it is a personal opinion] I can’t imagine God minds what we call him so long as we have honest intention in our heart.
 
Can I ask a little clarification (as I’m involved in the music in our Church). Is this a “law” (will it be contained within the instructions fo rmass?) or a “recommendation”?

(I am not saying I would not take “guidance” or “recommendation” very seriously, but I would like to be quite accurate and precise on the weight of this document.).

Thankyou

Michael
It says these are directives from the Holy Father, which “are to be observed”.
P.S. [added as a P.S. because it is a personal opinion] I can’t imagine God minds what we call him so long as we have honest intention in our heart.
Well, honest intention includes obedience to his Church, so what had been allowed in good faith is now no longer allowed. I’m sure there’s a long and interesting history behind this decision.

How many songs actually use the term, anyway?
 
Can I ask a little clarification (as I’m involved in the music in our Church). Is this a “law” (will it be contained within the instructions fo rmass?) or a “recommendation”?
This is an “instruction”; “the following directives are to be observed”. In other words, it is liturgical law, not suggestion.
P.S. [added as a P.S. because it is a personal opinion] I can’t imagine God minds what we call him so long as we have honest intention in our heart.
What you call God on your own time is your own affair with God; within the liturgy, though, we are expected to obey the directives of the Church. Given how careful Israel was not to speak the ineffable name, and the historical precedence described in the directive (read it if you haven’t), I think the Church is acting wisely and responsibly.
 
How many songs actually use the term, anyway?
I can only think of a few.
  • “You are near”: Yahweh, I know you are near… (based on Psalm 139)
  • “Sing a new song”: Yahweh’s people dance for joy, O come before the Lord! (based on Psalm 33, 96, 98, 144, or 149… my parish used this one this past Sunday!)
 
That means that OCP is going to have a major cow since one of the SLJ songs won’t be able to be sung anymore. 👍
 
I can only think of a few.
  • “You are near”: Yahweh, I know you are near… (based on Psalm 139)
  • “Sing a new song”: Yahweh’s people dance for joy, O come before the Lord! (based on Psalm 33, 96, 98, 144, or 149… my parish used this one this past Sunday!)
“I Lift Up My Soul”

To yooooooooooou, Yahweh, I lift up my soul, oh my God…

or something like that. 😛

Several years ago, a neighboring parish used to use that song in place of the Responsorial Psalm. It got kiboshed about 5 years ago.
 
The reason this is a big deal has nothing to do with God minding what we call Him.

Every single example I have seen where a priest inserts “Yahweh” into the mix-it always replaces the “he” or “him” pronouns. Every instance I have personally experienced, it has been a deliberate attack on the Church’s stance on women’s ordination. I have not met one single priest that used “Yawheh,” as simply another way of referring to God-they have all been radical supporters of women’s ordination.

This directive is one step in helping people understand that God is to be referred to with the male pronoun-“He,” “Him,” “His,” “Father,” for reasons which have been discussed at extreme length already on these forums.

Some people want to simplify it down to an obedience issue. It is so much more than that. I’m glad to see this in the works.
 
I can only think of a few.
  • “You are near”: Yahweh, I know you are near… (based on Psalm 139)
  • “Sing a new song”: Yahweh’s people dance for joy, O come before the Lord! (based on Psalm 33, 96, 98, 144, or 149… my parish used this one this past Sunday!)
“I Lift Up My Soul”

To yooooooooooou, Yahweh, I lift up my soul, oh my God…
😊 Unfortunately, in my opinion, “You Are Near” and “I Lift Up My Soul” are readily fixed by using ’ O, Lord’. Even worse is “Sing a New Song” will probably use ‘The Lord’s’ people, which just doesn’t sound right. (try it… The Lord’s people dance for joy…, seems clunky).
 
😊 Unfortunately, in my opinion, “You Are Near” and “I Lift Up My Soul” are readily fixed by using ’ O, Lord’. Even worse is “Sing a New Song” will probably use ‘The Lord’s’ people, which just doesn’t sound right. (try it… The Lord’s people dance for joy…, seems clunky).
Changing it to ‘Our Lord’s people dance for joy…’ might be better. Although I’m not sure its necessary for us to start working on alternative versions. With a bit of luck we might get a break from most the Yaweh hymns until new hymn sheets come out, although I’m sure some groups are already working on it.
 
I am all for this directive by the Holy Father.

Perhaps this is a reminder for all people to consider the contexts and the ways in which they use the holy Name of God, including that of Our Blessed Lord, Jesus Christ.
 
I haven’t read the reasoning behind it. My eyebrows went up a bit when I first read the OP…but then, agree or not, I shall obey…

Personally, I have never heard a priest use the Name in “text” (as it were) before; when they go “gender neutral” they just go with “God” (“Glory to God in the highest, and peace to God’s people on earth…”). The Name “Yahweh” only appears in the aforementioned hymns (and let’s not forget “Yahweh, The Faithful One”).

Correction: I *have *heard a priest mention “Yahweh”, but it was always in proper context: the Name and its meaning, Abraham, the Covenant, etc.
 
Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, and he led the flock to the far side of the desert and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. There the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. So Moses said to himself, “Self!” And Moses replied, “What?” and Moses said, “Go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.” And Moses said, “Okay.”

When the LORD saw that he had gone over to look, He called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!” And Moses replied, “What?”

“Do not come any closer,” the LORD said, “and take off your sandals.”

Moses said in awe, “For this is holy ground?”

The LORD relied, “No, it’s just that I got this puppy really stoked, and your straps are starting to smoulder.”

So when Moses had obediently removed his sandals and reverently extinguished his feet in the sand, he asked, “Who are you?”

The LORD said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God, and because his eyebrows were beginning to singe.

The LORD said, “I have indeed seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I have heard them crying out because of their slave drivers, and lamenting because of their suffering. Truth to tell, I’m getting tired of the whining. So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into Promised Land.”

And Moses said, “What is this Promised Land?”

And the LORD said, “The land I’m promising you. Keep up, son! So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”

Moses said to the LORD, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?”

The LORD said to Moses, “I don’t have a name. I don’t need one.”

But Moses replied, “Everyone has a name! How shall we call you?”

And the LORD replied, “‘God’ works. Or ‘LORD’, with all caps. ‘Father’ is cool, too. Doesn’t really matter, I’ll know when you are talking to me.”

But Moses cried, “But they are not names!”

And the LORD replied, “Look, mate, you lot all have names to tell each other apart. I do not have a name, because I don’t need to be told apart from anyone. I am the LORD your God.”

But Moses was in anguish. "That makes no sense! I cannot just say ‘God has sent me’ or “The LORD has sent me’! They will ask, ‘Which God?’ or ‘What Lord?’”

And the LORD replied, “I need no name, for I just am. I Am who I Am.”

And Moses dared to look up and said, “Come again?”

And the LORD repeated, “I Am who I Am”, or in the language of the day, “Yahweh”.

And Moses brightened and answered, “Yahweh!”

And the LORD replied, “Uh, no, see, not you, but ‘I Am…’”

But Moses was filled with joy, for he knew the Name of the LORD. “I shall go to the Children of Israel, and their Parents, and say, ‘Yahweh saith, “I will deliver you out of bondage and bring to the Promised Land!”’”

And the Lord interjected, “Whoa, there, pilgrim, that’s *not *My name, I just said…”

But Moses heard Him not, but said, “And I shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Yahweh saith, “Let My people go!”’”

And the LORD did sigh a mighty sigh, such that the sound was heard down the slopes of Horeb, and throughout the lands of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Jebusites, and even rustled some leaves in what would eventually be known as Muncie.

And the LORD relented and said, “All right, call Me ‘Yahweh’…”

But then Moses said, “But, lo, it is not meet that I should call my LORD by His Name, for it is Holy, and I must not profane it.”

And the LORD said, “Say what? You just spent all this time prying a name out of Me, a name I never had nor needed, and when I finally give you one, you won’t use it?”

But Moses was steadfast, and said, “None shall say Thy Name, O LORD, lest we profane It. We shall call You ‘The Name’, and when we write the Name, we won’t use vowels, whenever we get around to inventing them. For the Name of the LORD is holy! Blessed be His Holy Name, which no one will ever say, or write properly (and it will get even better when they finally expand the alphabet and add ‘J’ and ‘W’!), so that eventually no one will be able to profane it because they won’t know how to pronounce it!”

And the LORD said unto Himself, “Gevalt…”
 
What you call God on your own time is your own affair with God; within the liturgy, though, we are expected to obey the directives of the Church. Given how careful Israel was not to speak the ineffable name, and the historical precedence described in the directive (read it if you haven’t), I think the Church is acting wisely and responsibly.
Sumone sed ‘ineffable’. I r confusd.
 
Sumone sed ‘ineffable’. I r confusd.
From the American Heritage Dictionary

" 1. Incapable of being expressed; indescribable or unutterable. See Synonyms at unspeakable.
2. Not to be uttered; taboo: the ineffable name of God."
 
The only song we use is “Yahweh, I know you are near”.

I don’t really mind one way or another: I’m happy for us to use other hymns/songs (we only use that one occaisionally anyway) but it’s not something I will loose any sleep over if the priest wants to carry on using it.
 
I’ve got a question.

I pray the Liturgy of the Hours in Latin regularly, and for Saturday of Week 1, the canticle from Exodus 15 presently reads, in the *editio typica altera *edition:
Dominus quasi vir pugnator;
Iahveh nomen eius!
Does this instruction mean I should henceforth replace Iahveh with Dominus?

Or should I stick with what’s printed in the current liturgical books?
 
Does this instruction mean I should henceforth replace Iahveh with Dominus? Or should I stick with what’s printed in the current liturgical books?
I would suggest writing first to your Conference of Bishops, and if they cannot adequately resolve it, to the CDWDS.
 
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