No nice people in Heaven?

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Fun fact: If you search for no nice people in heaven on Google this thread is the second entry.
 
OK, what social media site did you read THAT on?

Of course there are nice people in heaven. Why would you think not?
People who are just, compassionate, loving, and moral tend to be “nice” right?
We know the Apostles and Our Lady are in heaven. We know of thousands of canonized Saints in heaven…are you asserting that none of them are nice?

Come on. :ouch:
 
You know my “doc” or the medical professional attached to my platoon in the Marines used to say that he doesn’t really care if he hurts me as long as he saves my life. Meaning, sometimes in order to stop the bleeding you may feel pain in the process.

In that sense, those that have made it into heaven may have seemed “not nice” to us who remember them, but the fact is, they were trying to stop the bleeding, and save us…
 
Indeed.

Holy and Nice are not mutually exclusive; nor are they synonymous.

God’s richest blessings in these final days of Advent!
 
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Nice ≠ Holy
Holy ≠ Nice

Just because a person is “nice” does not mean they are holy and conversely being holy does not mean they are “nice”. That does not mean though that someone cannot be holy and “nice”… what ever “nice” means.
 
The saying “No nice people in Heaven” could, for some, be an excuse to “correct” others without charity. Sometimes — most times, in my opinion — there is a nice way to correct others or to make a situation better.
 
Depends on your definition of "nice’.

There is fake “nice” where people will put on a front and a face but will make no effort stop themselves from backstabbing or hurting in some way the person they were just ‘nice’ to, and then there is “nice” where someone is moral and good and kind- with real conscientious effort to do good to others at all times, to do God’s will. One is a tactic used to pump one’s ego and the other is used to uplift glory to God to the benefit of all.

Only God reads the heart, knows the heart of a person.

Washing the outside of the cup type ‘nice’ people won’t be in heaven. Its for show. Its for ego stroking.
 
There are at least 2 ways an adjective can be inaccurate. It can either describe something that does not apply, or it can fail to fully describe the characteristic it is attempting to describe.

As an adjective, “nice” is just the absolute bare minimum to be a functioning non-jerk. It may be correct to say that there are no nice people in heaven because the term “nice” would be so tepid as to be inaccurate, like describing the saving of hundreds of people from a burning building as “a nice gesture”.
 
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Nice ≠ Holy
Holy ≠ Nice

Just because a person is “nice” does not mean they are holy and conversely being holy does not mean they are “nice”. That does not mean though that someone cannot be holy and “nice”… what ever “nice” means.
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Some of the elements of being nice are found here.

Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;* 6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. ***
 
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Some of the elements of being nice are found here.

Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;* 6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. ***
That is what you might think of when using the word “nice”, but for others, “nice” simply means agreeable in a vague sense or perhaps inoffensive. Nice is a bland word that really doesn’t convey anything beyond a general warm fuzzy feeling.

It is funny that “nice” is now conflated as something along the lines of being kind given that the original meaning was foolish, stupid, or ignorant. Always odd how words change to completely diverge from their origins. 🤷
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That is what you might think of when using the word “nice”, but for others, “nice” simply means agreeable in a vague sense or perhaps inoffensive. Nice is a bland word that really doesn’t convey anything beyond a general warm fuzzy feeling.

It is funny that “nice” is now conflated as something along the lines of being kind given that the original meaning was foolish, stupid, or ignorant. Always odd how words change to completely diverge from their origins. 🤷
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Ah, you mean lukewarm when you say nice. There could be something to it.
 
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That is what you might think of when using the word “nice”, but for others, “nice” simply means agreeable in a vague sense or perhaps inoffensive.
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Well, since word words mean something, and English is a language, let me post what the word means in English, if I never existed, as an adjective describing a person.

Oxford:

(of a person) good-natured; kind:

Merriam-Webster

a : pleasing, agreeable
socially acceptable : well-bred
b : virtuous, respectable <was taught that nice girls don’t do that>

: polite, kind <that’s nice of you to say>

McMillian

friendly, kind, and pleasant
She’s a nice girl.
it is nice of someone (to do something): It was nice of you to come and see me.
nice to: He’s always been nice to me.

I could not find “lukewarm” anywhere. That definition seems to the one that is not in English. I think we have lost the virtue of politeness in many places. As a result, people who do not value manners have had a reaction against the word and have strove to make a vice out of a virtue, somewhat like the vice of pride has been made a virtue. I am also sure that people like Michael Voris has done English no favors with his sarcasm and parody of the “Church of Nice.”
 
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I could not find “lukewarm” anywhere. That definition seems to the one that is not in English. I think we have lost the virtue of politeness in many places. As a result, people who do not value manners have had a reaction against the word and have strove to make a vice out of a virtue, somewhat like the vice of pride has been made a virtue. I am also sure that people like Michael Voris has done English no favors with his sarcasm and parody of the “Church of Nice.”
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Not sure if you were pointing that lack of manners finger at me, but I will assume in charity that you weren’t. I never said it meant “lukewarm”, but rather that it is used as a vague word with little substance; a non committal words as it were.

Would a woman appreciate her husband saying she had “nice eyes” or is there a greater depth of feeling if he were to say she had “beautiful eyes” or her eyes were “gorgeous”? The same can go for phases such as “he’s a nice boy” and “he is a kind person”. Kind conveys a stronger sense of the person than “nice”. Nice is about as middle of the road as you can get.

Even one of your posted definition includes what I actually stated; in particular the sense of “pleasing, agreeable”. You can be agreeable and not be kind. They are not the same thing. For many people being nice is about not being offensive. That can be carried to the end of saying that someone that stands up for Church teaching is not nice because they offend millions of people while people/groups that are non-judgemental about say sexual sin are nicer.

I think of “kind” as the true underlying virtue and being nice is one way to express that kindness. I know many kind people who could be “nicer”, but I also know plenty of “nice” people that could be kinder.

My point is that people interchange the words “nice” and “kind” when they are two distinct things. Nice does not imply a sense of caring in the same way that kindness does.
 
Heaven is a state of timeless contemplation of the Blessed Trinity.

You don’t have ‘talk’ to the other souls there, so niceness won’t really come into it!!!

St. Jerome (certainly in Heaven) was not ‘nice’- St. Bernard, too, perhaps. But other saints, St. Therese the Little Flower, certainly were.
 
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