No Purgatory after Final Judgment?

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When the end of the times arrives and the Final Judgment takes place, what will happen to people who is still alive and would have gone to Purgatory had they died today?
From Mt 25, 46 I understand Purgatory will no longer be an option.

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Correct. There will be no Purgatory at the end of time. Death and Hades (the abode of the dead) will be no more.

REVELATION 20:12-15 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, by what they had done. 13 And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had done. 14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire; 15 and if any one’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
 
From my understanding and please correct me if I am wrong but the purpose of purgatory is for the soul to be purified (cleansed of all attachment to sin) before it can enter Heaven. I believe the Bible says that nothing unclean shall enter Heaven. Depending on how we lived our lives here on earth determines how much (time) purification we will have to undergo which is determined by God. Now at the end of time or the Second Coming, those people who are still alive, God will purify their souls instantly which will allow them to enter Heaven since purgatory will no longer exist and those souls who are in purgatory at the Second Coming will all enter Heaven. After the Second Coming, only Heaven and Hell will exist.

Mark
 
Marcus_T said:
From my understanding and please correct me if I am wrong but the purpose of purgatory is for the soul to be purified (cleansed of all attachment to sin) before it can enter Heaven. I believe the Bible says that nothing unclean shall enter Heaven. Depending on how we lived our lives here on earth determines how much (time) purification we will have to undergo which is determined by God. Now at the end of time or the Second Coming, those people who are still alive, God will purify their souls instantly which will allow them to enter Heaven since purgatory will no longer exist and those souls who are in purgatory at the Second Coming will all enter Heaven. After the Second Coming, only Heaven and Hell will exist.

Mark
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Sincere question since I do not understand much of this myself….why isn’t the bolded an option for those who die before the end of time?
 
JSSD said:
Sincere question since I do not understand much of this myself….why isn’t the bolded an option for those who die before the end of time?
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The last days will be filled with suffering as man has never known before. Anyone who dies before the last days has not endured this suffering on earth.
 
They will be changed in the twinkling of an eye - see Saint Paul 1 Corinthians 15:51-52
 
My take on it is that they won’t be magically purified but God, but at the end of time, those remaining will be going through the Great Tribulation. And if you make it through the great tribulation, by the time it’s over, you will have been purified. No one will be able to endure that without fully being made ready to enter heaven immediately.

Again, that’s just my take. I haven’t studied the end times enough to know whether or not that jives with any other thinkers greater than I, but it makes sense to me.
 
They will be changed in the twinkling of an ey**e - see Saint Paul 1 Corinthians 15:51-52
 
Actually after the FINAL judgement, I believe the bible says even Hell and death will be destroyed. so whatever you think ‘destroyed’ means I guess, IMO, when the bible mentions something being destroyed in other instances, that place, or person is…well…destroyed, gone, no longer existing, etc.
 
Heaven and hell may well be destroyed, I don’t know about that, but those who are damned are damned forever. They are not destroyed and their punishment is eternal.
 
Mary_Ellen said:
Heaven and hell may well be destroyed, I don’t know about that, but those who are damned are damned forever. They are not destroyed and their punishment is eternal.
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**Revelation 20:14

14 And death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
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So, please explain how hell is eternal since this verse says it will be cast into the lake of fire…this is hell being destroyed, plus the verse that says man CAN obtain eternal life, it does not say everyone will though…so maybe those who end up heaven obtain eternal life and those who do not, end up in hell, but then when hell is destroyed, they are gone too?
 
People alive at the Last Judgement will indeed “be changed in the twinkling of an eye” like the scriptures says. That twinkling of an eye might to them feel like a much longer span of time or the suffering for a brief time might be more intense.

We simply don’t know exactly how God will do it but all those in purgatory will be purified.

Those souls in Hell will be reunified with their bodies at the last judgement but they will not be glorified–they will be hideous and after the final Judgement–body ands soul–they will be cast into Hell.

Only God can judge those who by their own choice choose Hell–only God can purify those who die in a state of grace but with temporal punishment or purification left to make them perfect and send them from purgatory to Heaven.

And only God can judge those who can instantly enter Heaven.

The souls of those in Heaven at the final Judgement will be reunified with their bodies and will rise with glorified bodies into Heaven.

Mary will not have to have her body risen at the last judgement into Heaven because she is already in Heaven with body and soul present.
 
Jerry-Jet said:
People alive at the Last Judgement will indeed “be changed in the twinkling of an eye” like the scriptures says. That twinkling of an eye might to them feel like a much longer span of time or the suffering for a brief time might be more intense.

We simply don’t know exactly how God will do it but all those in purgatory will be purified.

Those souls in Hell will be reunified with their bodies at the last judgement but they will not be glorified–they will be hideous and after the final Judgement–body ands soul–they will be cast into Hell.

Only God can judge those who by their own choice choose Hell–only God can purify those who die in a state of grace but with temporal punishment or purification left to make them perfect and send them from purgatory to Heaven.

And only God can judge those who can instantly enter Heaven.

The souls of those in Heaven at the final Judgement will be reunified with their bodies and will rise with glorified bodies into Heaven.

Mary will not have to have her body risen at the last judgement into Heaven because she is already in Heaven with body and soul present.
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Yep, and eventually, death AND HELL, will be destroyed, so hell will not be eternal, the bible states even it will be destroyed after so long. I forget the verse, but I can find it if needed.
 
We really dont know what purgatory’s relation to “time” is, so if a person who dies immediately before the last judgment and is in need of purgatory then their soul will receive the needed purging regardless of time. Since all existence on the other side of the grave is not under the same scale of time as on this side, then purging that takes place in purgatory will be based upon the state of purging and not the amount of time of purging.
 
That is true–plus God is able to do anything that is needed with the scale of time or the severity of punishment to give any person the amount of purging they need in purgatory “in the twinkling of and eye”.

I believe maybe St.Thomas Aquinas indicated that one Earth we have time–in Heaven there is not time–and that in purgatory there is an odd mixture somewhere between the two…or maybe theologians think that is what he indicates?

It is hard for me to wrap my mind around how things works in succession in Heaven while there is not time but with God things all things are possible and I’ll guess we’ll find that out when we get there.
 
The bible also states with Jesus, a single day is like 1000 years and 1000 years is like one day, so time is relative in the afterlife, what seems like a single micro second here on earth, may actually be hundreds of years in the afterlife, but whatever it is, It WILL NOT feel the same as time passing here on earth though, that, we can be sure of.

So when people say ‘eternity’ it frightens people, because generally time passes slowly if one is in jail or serving some sentence, and of course ‘eternity’ would seem scary in this sense, BUT we forget there will be NO time, so it will not ‘feel’ the same as time passing here on earth, and I cant begin to imagine what it does feel like, I dont think anyone alive can even comprehend what it is like.
 
They will be changed in the twinkling of an eye** - see Saint Paul 1 Corinthians 15:51-52
 
Yes, this is how I understand it.
That there is Purgatory until the Day of Judgement, where all souls who have died are returned to their bodies and resurrected from the dead and judged into Heaven and Hell
 
mikekle said:
Actually after the FINAL judgement, I believe the bible says even Hell and death will be destroyed. so whatever you think ‘destroyed’ means I guess, IMO, when the bible mentions something being destroyed in other instances, that place, or person is…well…destroyed, gone, no longer existing, etc.
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The interpretation of the “lake of Fire” is not changed from the early Church Fathers; from this explanation taken from Hippolytus newadvent.org/fathers/0520.htm paragraph 3.:
  1. For all, the righteous and the unrighteous alike, shall be brought before God the Word. … He comes as Judge whom we call Christ. … He, in administering the righteous judgment of the Father to all, assigns to each what is righteous according to his works. … awarding to each that which is just; since to those who have done well shall be assigned righteously eternal bliss, and to the lovers of iniquity shall be given eternal punishment. And the fire which is un-quenchable and without end awaits these latter, and a certain fiery worm which dies not, and which does not waste the body, but continues bursting forth from the body with unending pain. No sleep will give them rest; no night will soothe them; no death will deliver them from punishment; no voice of interceding friends will profit them. For neither are the righteous seen by them any longer, nor are they worthy of remembrance. But the righteous will remember only the righteous deeds by which they reached the heavenly kingdom, in which there is neither sleep, nor pain, nor corruption, nor care … Neither with man will there be generation again, but the number of the righteous remains indefectible with the righteous angels and spirits. You who believe these words, O men, will be partakers with the righteous, and will have part in these future blessings, which eye has not seen nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for them that love Him. To Him be the glory and the power, forever and ever. Amen.
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This is not to say that by current Church teachings that the fire or the worm must be literal, but there have never been any such change to the idea that the eternal punishment could somehow be reinterpreted to be shortened by any type of death or ending of the punishment.
 
My guess about Hell being throwed in the Lake of Fire, or the very Hell dying is it will be closed. No one will go to it anymore, so to people outside the Hell, it will be a threat no more.

And I like to think Hell is almost empty. Just the fallen angels and some very evil humans (I just can think about the people who did the unjust judgment of Christ).

I think the purgatory is huge and overpopulated until the end.

I just want to be good enough to go to the lowest level of purgatory.
 
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