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what are the documents related to “no salvation outside the church”

what books and articles discuss this topic from an intelligent viewpoint that deals with development of doctrine?
 
Daniel Marsh:
what are the documents related to “no salvation outside the church”

what books and articles discuss this topic from an intelligent viewpoint that deals with development of doctrine?
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I would read Francis Sullivan SJ - he has written about ecclesiology a good deal - “Magisterium” is the only one of his books, AFAIK, that does not contain a good deal on EENS. He discusses documents and theologians: not just the Council of Florence, for instance, but some at least of the theologians who contributed to Papal teaching from Pius IX onwards.​

The main documents of the magisterium include:
  • Unam Sanctam 1302
  • the Creed of the second council of Lyon in 1274
  • the Creed of the Council of Florence in 1442
  • “The Creed of the People of God” [AKA Solemni hac liturgia]of Paul VI in 1968
  • An allocution of Pius IX in 1863
  • Lumen Gentium of Vatican II - of course 🙂
  • Mystici Corporis (Pius XII)
  • Dominus Iesus (the SCDF)
  • The Clarification of the Holy Office of 1949 - issued in response to the Feeney affair, and clarifying the meaning of Mystici Corporis
  • and many of the Fathers: notably Origen, Cyprian, & Chrysostom (see discussion in Sullivan)
An older discussion is in Bainvel (available from TAN Books)

And so on 🙂 As for the thinking behind the dogma (EENS is in some form a dogma) - it depends whether one thinks of the Church as a visible reality confined to those parts of the globe where Catholics exist:

or

as primarily a mystery encompassing the entire creation, and to which men are by their nature called; so that “becoming Catholic” is realising in reality what they are in principle. The mental puictures we have of what a doctrine says, have a massive infliuence on how we understand it.

The two visualisations above used to coincide - as long as the known world, & the Christian commonwealth were more or less co-extensive. Once other people are discovered to whom the Gospel has never been brought, the coincidence of the two pictures begans to come under strain. Once the world is discovered to be mostly non-Christian, there is a huge problem. I think the Chirch has officially given up one picture - the Church as universally-found Christian commonwealth - for the other: the Church as universal mystery.

Lumen Gentium seems to be built firmly on the second idea - I have a link to that: somewhere… 🙂

Here: vatican2andbutler.org/./writes/church_myst.asp - see the whole site ##

Two posters you might ask are Dan-Man & Matt1618.
 
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what are the documents related to “no salvation outside the church”

what books and articles discuss this topic from an intelligent viewpoint that deals with development of doctrine?
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Ubi Primum, Pope Leo XIII, May 15, 1824.

Here’s an excerpt:
  1. Certainly many remarkable authors, adherents of the true philosophy, have taken pains to attack and crush this strange view. But the matter is so self-evident that it is superfluous to give additional arguments. It is impossible for the most true God, who is Truth Itself, the best, the wisest Provider, and the Rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, and to confer eternal rewards on their members. For we have a surer word of the prophet, and in writing to you We speak wisdom among the perfect; not the wisdom of this world but the wisdom of God in a mystery. By it we are taught, and by divine faith we hold one Lord, one faith, one baptism, and that no other name under heaven is given to men except the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth in which we must be saved. This is why we profess that there is no salvation outside the Church.
Link to encyclical

Here’s a group that holds to “no salvation outside the Church” - literally.

“The St. Benedict Center, a 200-acre complex featuring a few church buildings and land that is being sold to sympathetic families, is headed by a Catholic priest and is home to five celibate brothers and six celibate sisters, who are part of a religious order called the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Worship services attract between 200 and 300 each Sunday. Since 1989, about 20 to 30 families have moved to the area to be near the church.

This community, like others around the country, is out of step with the official Catholic Church. The residents are so-called Feeneyites, followers of the Rev. Leonard J. Feeney, a Boston priest who was silenced by Cardinal Richard J. Cushing in 1949 and dismissed from the Jesuit order because of his insistence that there is no salvation outside the church, a doctrine that runs contrary to current church teaching that anyone, even non-Christians, can get to heaven. Feeney died in 1978.

Feeney was excommunicated in 1953 for disobedience, but the excommunication was lifted by Pope Paul VI in 1972. The St. Benedict Center is now headed by 90-year-old Brother Francis Maluf, who was fired by Boston College in 1949 for his role in what became known as the Boston Heresy Case, in which he and another priest accused the president of Boston College of heresy.

“The St. Benedict Center has no relationship with the Diocese of Manchester, and Bishop [John B.] McCormack has not given them permission to do ministry in New Hampshire,” said Diane Murphy Quinlan, the diocese’s vice chancellor. “They are not in union with the church.” “

Go here for article.

Warm regards,

Plato
 
I was taught that if you are baptize in another christian church you are a member of Christ body. You are a Catholic even you attend a Protestant church at no fault of your own you will be saved.
 
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I was taught that if you are baptize in another christian church you are a member of Christ body. You are a Catholic even you attend a Protestant church at no fault of your own you will be saved.
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huh…:confused:
 
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imroc:
huh…:confused:
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A priest told me that. Maybe calling them Catholic isn’t the right term. Catholic and Protestants have one thing in common they’re baptize into christ’s body and that makes them members of christ’s church. Protestants what they believe is want they where taught though no fault of their own. They don’t deny the true Church because they never knew it. Because of this they are still members of Christ’s church and can be saved.
 
818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers . . . . All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church."272 819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth"273 are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements."274 Christ’s Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him,275 and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity."276

And further, from the Catechism:

838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."322 Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church."323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound "that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord’s Eucharist."324
 
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