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Mirror_Mirror
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Can anyone help me with an answer to my 7-year old son. He asked my wife this morning why Noah is not a saint. I am speechless and need some help.
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buffalo
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Mirror Mirror:
I do not think any OT persons are called saints. Cannonization is declared by the Roman Catholic Church. Old Testament people could not be followers of Christ.
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oldfogey
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Is Moses a saint? Or Abraham, Isaac, etc? They are Old Testament patriarchs, and probably in Heaven, but I’m just not aware that the Church has ever declared them to be saints. I always thought they were included with those that were released to Heaven after the Crucifixion. So maybe he will accept the explanation that Noah was included with the just souls who were waiting for the Redemption, and therefore is a saint.
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Mirror_Mirror
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Never thought about that, tells you how my week has been going. Thanks for knocking me over the head. :tiphat:
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Madia
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Maybe these links will help:
ewtn.com/vexperts/showresult.asp?RecNum=446994&Forums=0&Experts=0&Days=2005&Author=&Keyword=Old+Testament+Saints&pgnu=1&groupnum=0&record_bookmark=1&ORDER_BY_TXT=ORDER+BY+ReplyDate+DESC&start_at=
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Siena
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When Jesus died, he “decended into hell” - this was the resting place for the souls who died before Jesus. (His death opened the gates of heaven). I believe at that time- He released their souls into heaven. So- technically they are “saints”, we just don’t refer to them as such.
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mercygate
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Yup. They’re all saints. In the East they are referred to as “hagios” (saint) and icons of them are venerated. I have an elaborate old Russian icon of Hagios Elias (Elijah) with several scenes from his life. So mirror mirror can tell his or her son that Noah is, indeed, a saint. He and the other patriarchs and prophets were considered saints long before the formal process of canonization was instituted in the 13th Century, so they’re “grandfathered,” so to speak – along with all our early Christian favorites like Ignatius of Antioch, Irenaeus, Ambrose and Augustine . . .
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