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Is the story of Noah’s Ark to be interpreted literally, or not? Are we all sons and daughters of Noah and his wife? If yes, why? If no, why not?

Here, I’ll go first 👍 :

Personally, (and any of you other Catholics out there should feel free to yell at me if I’m misrepresenting the faith) I don’t think that the Bible is a science book, or a history book (in every situation). I’ve been taught that it’s 100% accurate in the spiritual message it delivers to us, but not necessarily in the literal message.

If it is a true story, I’m going to at least have to say that the flood didn’t cover the whole EARTH, but it instead covered the whole (Noah’s known) WORLD- the region Noah lived in. Science and faith do not contradict each other unless our knowledge of one of these things is lacking. I think it’s impossible that the entire planet was covered in water, and that one man gathered the billions of land-dwelling species we have on our planet into an ark.

So my opinion is no, I’m probably not the great^x grandson of Noah.

What are all of your opinions? There’s mine ^ 👍
 
Drew0426 said:
Is the story of Noah’s Ark to be interpreted literally, or not? Are we all sons and daughters of Noah and his wife? If yes, why? If no, why not?

Here, I’ll go first 👍 :

Personally, (and any of you other Catholics out there should feel free to yell at me if I’m misrepresenting the faith) I don’t think that the Bible is a science book, or a history book (in every situation). I’ve been taught that it’s 100% accurate in the spiritual message it delivers to us, but not necessarily in the literal message.

If it is a true story, I’m going to at least have to say that the flood didn’t cover the whole EARTH, but it instead covered the whole (Noah’s known) WORLD- the region Noah lived in. Science and faith do not contradict each other unless our knowledge of one of these things is lacking. I think it’s impossible that the entire planet was covered in water, and that one man gathered the billions of land-dwelling species we have on our planet into an ark.

So my opinion is no, I’m probably not the great^x grandson of Noah.

What are all of your opinions? There’s mine ^ 👍
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What formed these?

http://www.cccts.org/photos/WashWheatDMG/mediafiles/l14.jpg

or this?

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Drew0426 said:
Water 🙂
Oh, and God of course 🙂 … Because the second picture is rather breathtaking 👍

But how is there such diversity in plants if all of Earth flooded at once? Could you explain the science behind it?

So… Original question… Do you look at the story of Noah’s Ark as a strictly word-for-word literal one?
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These both were formed in less than 48 hours. The pothole was “drilled” is solid rock.

We now know adaptation happens rather quickly with great diversity and capabilities within “kinds”.
 
buffalo said:
These both were formed in less than 48 hours. The pothole was “drilled” is solid rock.

We now know adaptation happens rather quickly with great diversity and capabilities within “kinds”.
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Sorry, but I don’t really follow. Could you please explain?
 
Drew0426 said:
Is the story of Noah’s Ark to be interpreted literally, or not? Are we all sons and daughters of Noah and his wife? If yes, why? If no, why not?

Here, I’ll go first 👍 :

Personally, (and any of you other Catholics out there should feel free to yell at me if I’m misrepresenting the faith) I don’t think that the Bible is a science book, or a history book (in every situation). I’ve been taught that it’s 100% accurate in the spiritual message it delivers to us, but not necessarily in the literal message.

If it is a true story, I’m going to at least have to say that the flood didn’t cover the whole EARTH, but it instead covered the whole (Noah’s known) WORLD- the region Noah lived in. Science and faith do not contradict each other unless our knowledge of one of these things is lacking. I think it’s impossible that the entire planet was covered in water, and that one man gathered the billions of land-dwelling species we have on our planet into an ark.

So my opinion is no, I’m probably not the great^x grandson of Noah.

What are all of your opinions? There’s mine ^ 👍
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Bless ya Brother,
I dont think it is absolute importance it be seen as literal or figurative.

What doe the spirit inspire in you from the story that changes your actions tomorrow?
 
Drew0426 said:
Is the story of Noah’s Ark to be interpreted literally, or not? Are we all sons and daughters of Noah and his wife? If yes, why? If no, why not?

Here, I’ll go first 👍 :

Personally, (and any of you other Catholics out there should feel free to yell at me if I’m misrepresenting the faith) I don’t think that the Bible is a science book, or a history book (in every situation). I’ve been taught that it’s 100% accurate in the spiritual message it delivers to us, but not necessarily in the literal message.

If it is a true story, I’m going to at least have to say that the flood didn’t cover the whole EARTH, but it instead covered the whole (Noah’s known) WORLD- the region Noah lived in. Science and faith do not contradict each other unless our knowledge of one of these things is lacking. I think it’s impossible that the entire planet was covered in water, and that one man gathered the billions of land-dwelling species we have on our planet into an ark.

So my opinion is no, I’m probably not the great^x grandson of Noah.

What are all of your opinions? There’s mine ^ 👍
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The story of Noah’s Ark, as with all Scripture, should be interpreted, according to Catholic teaching, in the way the Catechism indicates (see the Catechism (CCC) para 50-141, but especially 101-119).

Yes, we are all sons and daughters of Noah, as we are all sons and daughters of Adam and Eve.

Of course the Bible is not a science book, nor a history book (as we typically understand history books, today).

It is the word of God.
 
Do I believe that the story of Noah’s Ark is real and not just a “lesson” to be learned from the Bible.

Yes, I believe that the story of Noah’s Ark is Real, it happened just like the Bible says it did.

Do I need Proof from Science? Nope.

Why, you might ask, don’t I need Proof from Science?

Because I have “Faith”.

Science although a very good thing, just can’t deliever what “Faith” in God can deliever.
 
adelore said:
Do I believe that the story of Noah’s Ark is real and not just a “lesson” to be learned from the Bible.

Yes, I believe that the story of Noah’s Ark is Real, it happened just like the Bible says it did.

Do I need Proof from Science? Nope.

Why, you might ask, don’t I need Proof from Science?

Because I have “Faith”.

Science although a very good thing, just can’t deliever what “Faith” in God can deliever.
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Your personal beliefs are of course fine. No one can really argue with or, in the end, dispute them.

But for the purposes of discussion, and to respond more specifically to the question the OP asked, do you also acknowledge that the Catholic Church does not require everyone to believe as you do regarding Noah’s Ark?
 
diggerdomer said:
Your personal beliefs are of course fine. No one can really argue with or, in the end, dispute them.

But for the purposes of discussion, and to respond more specifically to the question the OP asked, do you also acknowledge that the Catholic Church does not require everyone to believe as you do regarding Noah’s Ark?
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I certainly do! I’m also glad that this forum has led me to the official teaching of the Catholic Church
The story of Noah’s Ark, as with all Scripture, should be interpreted, according to Catholic teaching, in the way the Catechism indicates (see the Catechism (CCC) para 50-141, but especially 101-119).
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Yes, we are all sons and daughters of Noah, as we are all sons and daughters of Adam and Eve.
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Of course the Bible is not a science book, nor a history book (as we typically understand history books, today).
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It is the word of God.
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You learn something new every day! Thanks all 🙂
 
buffalo said:
What formed these?

http://www.cccts.org/photos/WashWheatDMG/mediafiles/l14.jpg

or this?

http://hugefloods.com/Bjornstad-Kiver.jpg
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Ummm well the first one looks like an asteroid and the second like rivers. I don’t see how you could say those were formed in 48 hours (well, maybe the first one).

I don’t think a flood would carve out the grand canyon; wouldn’t that need to be the movement of a river over tens of thousands of years?

And regarding the question of science, of course it is not necessary for matters of faith, but if it suggests that some biblical event couldn’t have logically happened in the exact way described (as I believe is the case with Noah’s Ark), then I think it would be prudent to interpret the biblical passage figuratively.

So that’s just my thoughts on the matter. Peas to all!

Oh and peace too.
 
Koopa said:
And regarding the question of science, of course it is not necessary for matters of faith, but if it suggests that some biblical event couldn’t have logically happened in the exact way described (as I believe is the case with Noah’s Ark), then I think it would be prudent to interpret the biblical passage figuratively.

So that’s just my thoughts on the matter. Peas to all!

Oh and peace too.
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May G-d bless you for His wisdom in these words, people of living faith open to learn and re-visit the faith of our for fathers with understanding from this time live the faith our children learning science can see and build upon to the glory of Our Father.

I am really unhappy about the peas though, but like things of faith and learning from scripture and experience, what’s hard to swallow is often good for me.

Peace and blessings to you and yours
 
Local flood all the way! I think Noah was a real person, but the flood was over the providence rather than the planet and only one race is a direct descendant of him.
 
In Catholic school, in the 1960s, I was taught that there was a literal, global flood, and that Noah and his Ark were real.

That’s the bottom line. Anyone who discounts this account by using science is applying the wrong standard. And anyone who says that its spiritual aspect is more important than any literal, historical aspect is also applying the wrong standard.

It disturbs me that some appear to want to apply what they call science to the work of God. Scientifically, how did Jesus raise the dead, cleanse the lepers or give sight to the blind? Anybody? Multiply the loaves and fishes?

It seems to me that the secular world wants to detach faith and reality. Did Jesus Christ actually die on the cross and return to life bodily? Did this actually happen? It had to have actually happened, since Paul tells us: “If Christ is not risen then your faith is in vain. Ye are still in your sins.”

Understand? Real literal event or you have no reason for your faith.

God bless,
Ed
 
I think the flood was of the area around Noah’s land, so the Middle East. I’ve heard there is evidence to prove that a great flood happened in this area, but I haven’t looked into it too much.

Of course, the Hebrews would say “the entire world” because they didn’t have boats that could travel oceans and planes, so they didn’t know that the world consisted of more than the Middle East.
edwest2 said:
Understand? Real literal event or you have no reason for your faith.
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Do you trump the Magisterium of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church?
 
Drew0426 said:
Is the story of Noah’s Ark to be interpreted literally, or not? Are we all sons and daughters of Noah and his wife? If yes, why? If no, why not?

Here, I’ll go first 👍 :

Personally, (and any of you other Catholics out there should feel free to yell at me if I’m misrepresenting the faith) I don’t think that the Bible is a science book, or a history book (in every situation). I’ve been taught that it’s 100% accurate in the spiritual message it delivers to us, but not necessarily in the literal message.

If it is a true story, I’m going to at least have to say that the flood didn’t cover the whole EARTH, but it instead covered the whole (Noah’s known) WORLD- the region Noah lived in. Science and faith do not contradict each other unless our knowledge of one of these things is lacking. I think it’s impossible that the entire planet was covered in water, and that one man gathered the billions of land-dwelling species we have on our planet into an ark.

So my opinion is no, I’m probably not the great^x grandson of Noah.

What are all of your opinions? There’s mine ^ 👍
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To me its impossible to have 2 of every earth bound creature on a Ark the size of Noah’s.
Not to mention all the food that would be necessary to feed them. Today we cannot build a big enough ship that would hold 2 of every earth bound creature plus thier food.

As far as flooding the entire earth. I would have to agree with you that it covered the whole (Noah’s known) world. If it covered the entire earth, for one, where did all that water go?
 
Dear Friend Drew: I would have to agree that it was a localized rather than global event. The events of the Abrahamic scriptures from what I have read of them seem to span a rather limited time frame in contrast to the history of the human race. The way I read the Bible (of which I have to humbly admit I am a novice to), the date of the event can roughly be fixed by looking at the events surrounding it in the Old Testament:

Genesis 11:10 tells us that Shem was 100 years old, 2 years after the Flood subsided. Following the chronologies of the Bible from that point would take us to roughly 4 thousand years ago. Based on that, I would have to make the following conclusions:

-There is is no significant break in continuity in the histories of other cultures around the planet in the last 6,000 years. There is no evidence of a flood setting these other cultures back to the starting point.

-If all of humanity was destroyed with the exception of Noah and his family, we would all have descended from Noah, who was from the middle east. 6,000 years or even 10,000 or 20,000 years is not enough time to develop all of the wonderful mutations that make up the diverse races of people that currently exist on this planet - Asian, African, Native American, ect. We would all still look middle eastern.

-There is a finite amount of water existent in the earth’s ecosystem. If enough existed to flood the entire planet under water, the entire planet would perpetually be underwater, because there is no place for it to go but earth, and all of it is here already. It all would have to come from the earth, and all of the water that is on the earth is already in it’s oceans, rivers. streams and atmosphere. There is none to spare in sufficient quantities to flood the entire planet. Even if every glacier melted, it would only raise sea level sufficiently to cause a catastrophic coastal event. Anything far enough inland would be safe. Additionally, the amount of sunlight needed to foist all of the water from the oceans into the atmosphere to cause a flood covering the planet would have boiled the planet and it’s inhabitants before the flood.

My bet is on a localized event.

Your friend
Sufjon
 
rev_kevin said:
To me its impossible to have 2 of every earth bound creature on a Ark the size of Noah’s.
Not to mention all the food that would be necessary to feed them. Today we cannot build a big enough ship that would hold 2 of every earth bound creature plus thier food.

As far as flooding the entire earth. I would have to agree with you that it covered the whole (Noah’s known) world. If it covered the entire earth, for one, where did all that water go?
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It looks like you are questioning the power or God. Does he not have the power and the wisdom to make all these possible that you are questioning? How did he feed the Israelites in the desert after fleeing Egypt?
 
pablope said:
It looks like you are questioning the power or God. Does he not have the power and the wisdom to make all these possible that you are questioning? How did he feed the Israelites in the desert after fleeing Egypt?
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Oh, I see how this is played. A Catholic don’t believe it to be true and you do not question him/her. But me, a Baptist says something and its lets question the Baptist. I noticed this is the first time you are writing on this post so I suggest you read what the OP a Catholic says and treat him/her the same you are treating me.
 
Drew0426 said:
Is the story of Noah’s Ark to be interpreted literally, or not? Are we all sons and daughters of Noah and his wife? If yes, why? If no, why not?

Here, I’ll go first 👍 :

Personally, (and any of you other Catholics out there should feel free to yell at me if I’m misrepresenting the faith) I don’t think that the Bible is a science book, or a history book (in every situation). I’ve been taught that it’s 100% accurate in the spiritual message it delivers to us, but not necessarily in the literal message.

If it is a true story, I’m going to at least have to say that the flood didn’t cover the whole EARTH, but it instead covered the whole (Noah’s known) WORLD- the region Noah lived in. Science and faith do not contradict each other unless our knowledge of one of these things is lacking. I think it’s impossible that the entire planet was covered in water, and that one man gathered the billions of land-dwelling species we have on our planet into an ark.

So my opinion is no, I’m probably not the great^x grandson of Noah.

What are all of your opinions? There’s mine ^ 👍
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It looks like you are questioning the power or God. Does he not have the power and the wisdom to make all these possible that you are questioning? How did he feed the Israelites in the desert after fleeing Egypt?
 
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