Noblest after Christ

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thistle said:
What do you mean by “noblest” and why are there only these 3 names in your poll?
We need more information. What is the point you are trying to make?
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replace noble with your favorite word: holy, glorious, greatest, etc. Only three names because it was a nice number.
 
Seeing as Mary was before Christ, it couldn’t be Her… Did St. John The Baptist not occur to this poll? I feel Bible quotes coming on. More so than actual participation. Why does this poll have a closing date?
 
adstrinity said:
Seeing as Mary was before Christ, it couldn’t be Her… Did St. John The Baptist not occur to this poll? I feel Bible quotes coming on. More so than actual participation. Why does this poll have a closing date?
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Mary was before Christ, sure, but I’m not talking about time. I’m asking, in another way, who is the greatest saint.

not sure why there is a closing date, probably my mistake.
 
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Mary was before Christ, sure, but I’m not talking about time. I’m asking, in another way, who is the greatest saint.

not sure why there is a closing date, probably my mistake.
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I think everyone would likely that it is Mary. She is Queen of Heaven.
 
adstrinity said:
Seeing as Mary was before Christ, it couldn’t be Her… Did St. John The Baptist not occur to this poll? I feel Bible quotes coming on. More so than actual participation. Why does this poll have a closing date?
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The Gospel of Matthew says -

Amen, I say to you, among those born of women there has been none greater than John the Baptist; yet the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

But since it ends as it does perhaps he is not the “greatest saint” as the OP seeks to find out, since even the least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater.

I am not sure how one could determine such a thing. Our personal devotions are particular to us all based on out needs and life experiences, I imagine that is why God gave us these many examples of holiness because each saint speaks to something in different individuals.
 
The Church teaches that Mary is the new Eve, as Christ is the new Adam. Mary was preserved from the stain of original sin and was declared “Full of Grace” and is the perfect image of corporate humanity working with full cooperation with the divine.
 
Of the three names you offered, Church teaching is clear that only Mary obeyed the will of God perfectly. That truth should in no way diminish the love of God which Peter and Paul grew into and lived to the ends of their lives.
 
Sorry to be so blunt, but it is a stupid question. Take the Blessed Mother out of the question. She is sinless it isn’t even close.
 
Rogerteder said:
Sorry to be so blunt, but it is a stupid question. Take the Blessed Mother out of the question. She is sinless it isn’t even close.
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Its actually not a stupid question. It can reveal a lot about a person.

You’d be surprise how many people I have spoken with that choose “This question is ill-posed since Mary is no more holier than I am”. But hey, thanks for you (name removed by moderator)ut. 👍
 
Mary did not have original sin so she is holy not noble, she had no flaw to overcome she was born knowing God. She does not share in the same trials we do with our relationship with God.

St Paul and St Peter both died and rot here on earth.

So the best in my book would be Elijah. Assumed into hevean and born with original sin, overcame so many temptaions. He is the best the Human race with original sin had to offer.
 
You should have put St. Michael the Archangel on the list, since he is the leader of God’s army of angels and fighter of Satan.
As the list is though, I chose St. Mary, being Queen of Heaven and the Mother of Christ. She far outweighs Sts. Peter and Paul but it would have been harder to chose between her and Michael.

I think the word “noblest” is probably the wrong one though, maybe “holiest” or “greatest” would have been better.
 
I guess, if we’re going for nobility, perhaps King David? But Mary is Queen of Heaven. So are we going for an earthly or spiritual nobility? Mmmmm…
 
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