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JuliaT
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What is the purpose of multiple baptism? i.e. being baptized as a child and then again as an adult.
Doesn’t that contradict OSAS?
Doesn’t that contradict OSAS?
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Spencerian
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Hi, there.
Baptism, done properly, leaves an “indelible mark” on the spirit, cleansing us of original sin, per the Catechism.
Multiple baptisms do nothing ontologically. The practice of multiple baptism may follow a common Protestant belief for a faith tradition that hedges the notion of baptism as Christian initiation, regardless of age (as Catholics believe) and baptism as “born-again” salvation at the age of reason (the word escapes me as to this specific event).
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JuliaT
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I am so sorry, I guess I wasn’t very clear in my question. It was directed to Non Catholics.
I hear protestants say they were baptized at different periods of their life. It just seems to me that it means that their view of baptism is not as the same as ours.
I hear protestants say they were baptized at different periods of their life. It just seems to me that it means that their view of baptism is not as the same as ours.
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ajcstr
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Not sure if this is answers you but many denominations do not believe in infant baptism. They believe the individual must be of an age that he/she is capable of making a faith decision to be baptized into Christianity. Also, it would not be a sacramental event, more of a symbolic ritual.
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rev_kevin
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I have not heard of this mulitple baptism. You only need to be baptized once. Now some may do a rededication baptism sort of like a rededication of the marriage vows. But to be baptized in what looks like stages to me is uncalled for.
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SSTeacher
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Interesting question. Could it be that the people with whom you’ve talked have switched denominations? For example, Methodists will baptize infants. So if a Methodist was baptized as an infant and later in life decided to become a Baptist (which denomination rejects infant baptism) I’m guessing that Methodist’s infant baptism would probably be viewed as invalid by the Baptists and baptism by immersion would have to take place before the Methodist could be received into the Baptist denomination.
Speculatively,
Mick
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guanophore
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No. Those who accept the heresy of OSAS also reject the apostolic teaching that Baptism saves.
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twopekinguys
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With so many different denominations out there right now, there can be, and usually is some confusion regarding baptisms.
I was baptised Catholic as an infant, but never catechized. When I was younger, I attended a Southern Baptist Church. They wanted to rebaptize me, because they didn’t recognize a Catholic baptism.
I quit going there, and started going to a Nazarene Church, and they wanted to do the same thing. A friend of mine that was going to the Nazarene Church with me was baptized at the Baptist Church I mentioned, but the Nazarene’s wouldn’t accept it, so they wanted to baptize him again also.
See where I’m going with this?
Some churches don’t think you’ve had a valid baptism until you’ve had one of theirs, so you can end up with more than one if you change churches.
As a side note, my daughter in law moved her church registration (Lutheran), due to them moving to a different location. She went from LCMS (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) to an ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America), and she had to be re-confirmed.
I still don’t understand that one.
Me neither. I went from ELCA to LCMS, and was accepted by transfer of membership.
And your experience doesn’t sound typical to me, but there are ELCA clergy who frequent CAF, and might have more information.
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twopekinguys
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It’s getting to the point where we need a score card for all of this stuff…
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guanophore
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Most Protestants don’t believe in the Apostolic Teaching of the indelible mark. They have been led astray by Modern American Fundamentalism, which teaches that baptism is only an “outward sign of an inward change”. Those that do it at all do so out of obedience, not because they think there is any supernatural grace involved. For that reason, the experience of being “born again” is not related to baptism as much as it is a confession of faith (believe in your heart, and confess with your mouth and you will be saved). Many also believe that being “born again” does not involve any water at all, and that the “baptism” of being born again is HS without water.
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4Squarebaby
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And those churches and Christians who believe that, but require you to get re-baptized do so as a public confession of faith. In a way an act of obedience necessary to join say the Baptist.
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guanophore
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Actually “again” or anabaptism is one of the roots of the Baptist tradition,. It is based upon the assumption that infant baptism is not valid, that only “believers baptism” is valid. As a result, persons who were baptized prior to being able to make a personal choice for Jesus are “again” baptized.
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rev_kevin
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If a Baptist was baptized and then converted to be a Catholic, does the CC recognize the Baptist baptism? Would they have to be Baptized again because the CC don’t recognize the Baptist baptism?
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twopekinguys
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In most cases, the Catholic Church will recognize a Baptist baptism. There have been some that I have seen that did not use a trinitarian formula for whatever reason, so they were considered invalid.
Requirements are 1. Form (Trinitarian) 2.Matter (water) 2. Intention (obvious)
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rev_kevin
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. But what about the ones that do not recognize the Baptist baptism?
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twopekinguys
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I’m not sure what you’re asking exactly.
If you’re asking what would happen in the cases of invalid baptisms (i.e. not trinitarian), then the person would need to receive a valid baptism.
As long as the baptism is done with the 3 things I explained previously, then any Catholic Church would accept it. If any, or all of those elements are missing, then the baptism is not valid, and wouldn’t be recognized
Is that what you’re asking?.
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rev_kevin
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Well sorry
I miss read what you wrote. :doh2: So if all 3 are present the they will accept the Baptism. Ok I quess I need to get some new glasses.
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twopekinguys
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It happens to the best of us.Well sorry
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