Non-Catholic Exclusion of the Eucharist

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GKC said:
Haven’t you seen me before? I’ve been around a few years.

I am a Continuing Anglican, Anglicanus-Catholicus.

A piscina is the basin used to wash the altar vessels that have contained the consecrated species. It communicates with consecrated ground, via the sacrarium.

You guys use the system too, I’ll warrant.
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Many Lutherans, too

Jon
 
GKC said:
My son in law, when serving as acolyte, was occasionally called upon to be the one to consume the Blood. He was a hefty lad.

One might point out that the question only arises with respect to the consecrated elements, of course. Any remnants of the Body are placed in the tabernacle, on the rare occasion that the count was not accurate.

And, unlike our RC friends, no one not in Orders touches or distributes the consecrated elements.The usual use is made of the piscina, as one would expect.

I do not, of course, speak as an Episcopalian.
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All of the above for the usual Episcopal parish too, as you well know, GKC. Co-celebrants, servers, deacons, acolytes, etc, learn early to help consume the remaining consecrated wine.
 
ComplineSanFran said:
All of the above for the usual Episcopal parish too, as you well know, GKC. Co-celebrants, servers, deacons, acolytes, etc, learn early to help consume the remaining consecrated wine.
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For a number of reasons, I would no more generalize about Episcopalians in the Eucharist than I would about Anglicans, generally.
 
GKC said:
For a number of reasons, I would no more generalize about Episcopalians in the Eucharist than I would about Anglicans, generally.
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I have been in hundreds of Episcopal/Anglican churches in my life, and I have never seen elements (specifically the wine) unconsumed.
 
TC3033 said:
OK, and no body disagreed with you.
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Right. At first, it sounded (to me?) like rcwitness was claiming that the OP’s Evangelical boyfriend should be allowed simply to receive. rcwitness later clarified that this isn’t what he meant. It’s all good. 😉
 
GKC said:
And, unlike our RC friends, no one not in Orders touches … the consecrated elements.
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They don’t?!?!?!?!?

How does one consume them, then, if he doesn’t come in contact with them?!?!? 😉
 
JonNC said:
Speak for yourself. 😉

Jon
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I know 🙂 I realised I was generalising too much when I posted but as its the case for a large number of Protestant denominations and the OPs boyfriend, I figured the point was still true!
 
rcwitness said:
How many father’s do you know that while their children live under their roof and eat at their table would not expect his children to abide by his rules?
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It’s not me you need to convince 🙂

But even that won’t help the OPs boyfriend as your very post is based on your beliefs as a Catholic. Ie that Jesus established a visible church, gave Peter the keys to the kingdom etc and you believe that church is the Catholic Church. The OPs boyfriend however is non denominational and won’t believe such. He will believe in sola scripture, priesthood of all believers etc and that there is no one true church with authority. His church teaches that all children can eat at any table regardless of which house they are in.

If the OPs boyfriend were to fully accept the reasoning behind closed communion in the Catholic Church, he shouldn’t be attending his church and look into Catholicism. A situation like this requires the Catholic thinking like a Protestant (to understand his view point) and visa versa. Very few people can do this!

As a Protestant, the most he can do is simply respect the views of Catholicism and stop going on about feeling discriminated against.
 
GKC said:
Haven’t you seen me before? I’ve been around a few years.

I am a Continuing Anglican, Anglicanus-Catholicus.

A piscina is the basin used to wash the altar vessels that have contained the consecrated species. It communicates with consecrated ground, via the sacrarium.

You guys use the system too, I’ll warrant.
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Thank you, Our priest or deacon purifies the vessels at the alter. The Sacred Hosts not used at the Mass are placed in the Tabernacle. God Bless, Memaw
 
JonNC said:
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Originally Posted by Memaw View Post
They said the very same thing I did only more eloquently. God Bless, Memaw

I quoted the text that you said you agree with.
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Yes you took one line out of context. God Bless, Memaw
 
Memaw said:
Thank you, Our priest or deacon purifies the vessels at the alter. The Sacred Hosts not used at the Mass are placed in the Tabernacle. God Bless, Memaw
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Sounds familiar.

We do the same. And then having been rinsed slightly and wiped with the purificator, the vessels are taken to the sacristy, and washed in the piscina.
 
ComplineSanFran said:
Or perhaps from a different perspective, how many fathers would set out a table for their family and refuse to let their children eat?
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The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in the Catholic Church can not be compared to a family meal. We are talking about the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, NOT ordinary food. Catholics must be properly prepared to receive Our Lord in Holy Communion. If one isn’t, then they are not receiving the Grace that would be available to them and may even be committing a sacrilege Out of LOVE and RESPECT for Our Lord, we must learn and follow Church teaching. God Bless, Memaw
 
GKC said:
Sounds familiar.

We do the same. And then having been rinsed slightly and wiped with the purificator, the vessels are taken to the sacristy, and washed in the piscina.
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Do you have a Tabernacle, if not, why not?? God Bless, Memaw
 
Gorgias said:
They don’t?!?!?!?!?

How does one consume them, then, if he doesn’t come in contact with them?!?!? 😉
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If that actually was confusing, let me explicate. No one handles the consecrated elements, save some one in Orders, who administers the sacrament, to a recipient. IOW, no Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist. A lay person touches the Body/Blood only in consuming them.
 
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