Non-Catholic Exclusion of the Eucharist

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The disciples on the road to Emmaus were given His Eucharist because they first listened to Jesus interpret Scripture to them. They accepted and invited Him to stay with them. They thought they were practicing the old custom of breaking bread, but their eyes were opened and He was made fully known to Him when they took the blessed Sacrament! It was not Scripture alone, but receiving this bread in a worthy manner.

He physically vanished then! Like He physically entered through the locked door of the upper room, His body and blood moves with His Spirit! And we no longer regard Him in mere flesh, but one with the Holy Spirit. And the priest invites the Holy Spirit to bring Jesus to us in Holy Communion. And in doing so, we profess He has been sacrificed, yet lives in a resurrected and glorified body, which we Adore with His Father and their Holy Spirit.
 
Evangelical Free Christians believe they can all minister the Lord’s Supper. There is no need for an ordained Minister to serve the Bread of His Presence.

When I ask these Christians if they would ever feel comfortable doing so (or if they have) they unanimously have expressed an uncertainty about it.
 
rcwitness said:
He is allowed to receive Communion if He believes the Christian faith regarding His Eucharist. Communion is far from an “only me and Jesus” thing.

I’m sure you will be gentle no mater what. But the reality is that we believe receiving the Lord’s Supper while openly or secretly rejecting what the Church Teaches is profanity the Body and Blood of our Savior. We are called to one mind, one judgment and one Loaf. We are not a wide gate for everyone to interpret in their own separate ways. His body and blood cannot be manipulated, twisted or interpretated, like Scripture. It is Him.

That sounds like a proud and entitled attitude. I suggest letting him make the decission, and giving your anxiety over to Jesus. His Eucharist is a stumbling block to the carnal person.
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He is NOT allowed to receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church. There are very strict guidelines for that. I think you and he need to talk to a priest. God Bless, Memaw
 
Memaw said:
He is NOT allowed to receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church. There are very strict guidelines for that. I think you and he need to talk to a priest. God Bless, Memaw
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I said “if he believes the Christian faith regarding the Eucharist”

There is only one faith, and it is Catholic.
 
rcwitness said:
I said “if he believes the Christian faith regarding the Eucharist”

There is only one faith, and it is Catholic.
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And this is the underlying reality I mentioned earlier. That the RCC and many Catholics don’t view other Christians as full Christians (or even Christians at all in some cases) for one perceived deficiency or another. Which is why I suggested if Catholics thinking that causes the OP or anyone else consternation they should probably consider ceasing going to Catholic mass. Or consider why it’s causing them consternation in the first place.
 
Padres1969 said:
And this is the underlying reality I mentioned earlier. That the RCC and many Catholics don’t view other Christians as full Christians (or even Christians at all in some cases) for one perceived deficiency or another. Which is why I suggested if Catholics thinking that causes the OP or anyone else consternation they should probably consider ceasing going to Catholic mass. Or consider why it’s causing them consternation in the first place.
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The issue is that this Christian is not as assenting/professing the Catholic faith. And by doing so, he is calling the Catholic Church false Teaching. You, and most Protestantism, is attempting to turn that charge against us because we are upholding the faith.
 
rcwitness said:
I said “if he believes the Christian faith regarding the Eucharist”

There is only one faith, and it is Catholic.
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No that’s not enough, he HAS to become a believing Catholic in order to receive. It is statements like this that confuses so many people. God Bless, Memaw
 
Memaw said:
No that’s not enough, he HAS to become a believing Catholic in order to receive. It is statements like this that confuses so many people. God Bless, Memaw
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the faith is not mere belief. I never implied it is. The faith is Baptism, Confirmation, and Eucharitst with assented faith and in a state of grace.
 
Padres1969 said:
And this is the underlying reality I mentioned earlier. That the RCC and many Catholics don’t view other Christians as full Christians (or even Christians at all in some cases) for one perceived deficiency or another. Which is why I suggested if Catholics thinking that causes the OP or anyone else consternation they should probably consider ceasing going to Catholic mass. Or consider why it’s causing them consternation in the first place.
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The Catholic Church believes that ALL Baptized are Christians. But Not all have the FULLNESS of the Faith to participate in the Catholic Sacraments. Jesus Christ prayed for Unity. That ALL would be one in Him. That is why HE founded a Church, to guide, govern and make Holy those who belong to His Church. He didn’t say Churches ! All this division among Christians is NOT what HE prayed for. He promised the Holy Spirit would guide His Church and protect it from error, till the end of time. The Catholic Church gave us the Bible. The Catholic Church is over 2,000 years old and still going strong. How old is your Church?? God Bless, Memaw
 
Memaw said:
The Catholic Church is over 2,000 years old and still going strong. How old is your Church?? God Bless, Memaw
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Do I detect a slightly condescending tone here? 😉

To me this says, “Your not very old fake church”.
 
Thorolfr said:
Do I detect a slightly condescending tone here? 😉

To me this says, “Your not very old fake church”.
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I must admit I am seeing an attitude from memaw also. And I haven’t been the first. If we can’t fellowship with patients and kindness, we should step out of the discussion.
 
rcwitness said:
The issue is that this Christian is not as assenting/professing the Catholic faith. And by doing so, he is calling the Catholic Church false Teaching. You, and most Protestantism, is attempting to turn that charge against us because we are upholding the faith.
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Not at all. I totally understand and accept the Catholic position when I attend your masses as I said a few pages back. I don’t agree your position on the matters at hand, but I do abide by them when in your house so to speak. And I don’t think anyone is trying to tell you your teaching is false per se. You can think it’s true all you want.
 
Memaw said:
The Catholic Church believes that ALL Baptized are Christians. But Not all have the FULLNESS of the Faith to participate in the Catholic Sacraments. Jesus Christ prayed for Unity. That ALL would be one in Him. That is why HE founded a Church, to guide, govern and make Holy those who belong to His Church. He didn’t say Churches ! All this division among Christians is NOT what HE prayed for. He promised the Holy Spirit would guide His Church and protect it from error, till the end of time. The Catholic Church gave us the Bible. The Catholic Church is over 2,000 years old and still going strong. How old is your Church?? God Bless, Memaw
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Isn’t that what I just said?
 
Padres1969 said:
Not at all. I totally understand and accept the Catholic position when I attend your masses as I said a few pages back. I don’t agree your position on the matters at hand, but I do abide by them when in your house so to speak. And I don’t think anyone is trying to tell you your teaching is false per se. You can think it’s true all you want.
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I’m sure you agree with much Catholic faith, and respect what she believes when “in her house”. But if you have not assented to the Deposit of Faith, as she has Taught, then you are not receiving Him in completeness. And that is harmful to you and the whole body.

We believe the Church in its united Leadership, under a chief Bishop and pastor, confirms what constitutes the Deposit of Faith.

Ephesians 3

“… and to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things; that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. This was according to the eternal purpose which he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord”
 
Thorolfr said:
Do I detect a slightly condescending tone here? 😉

To me this says, “Your not very old fake church”.
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I am just asking a question and seeking the truth. Didn’t Jesus say “The TRUTH will set you free.” HE also said. “I am the Way the Truth and the Life” We should never be afraid of the truth. . God Bless, Memaw
 
Padres1969 said:
**And this is the underlying reality I mentioned earlier. That the RCC and many Catholics don’t view other Christians as full Christians (or even Christians at all in some cases) for one perceived deficiency or another. **Which is why I suggested if Catholics thinking that causes the OP or anyone else consternation they should probably consider ceasing going to Catholic mass. Or consider why it’s causing them consternation in the first place.
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Yep, agreed (even though we were told that this doesn’t happen earlier in the thread)
 
rcwitness said:
I said “if he believes the Christian faith regarding the Eucharist”

There is only one faith, and it is Catholic.
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I know what you said, but that is not correct. Even if he does believe what the Catholic Church teaches pertaining to the Eucharist, he is still NOT able to receive until he becomes a Catholic. Only Catholics are able to receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church and then only if the Catholic is in the State of Grace. Not all Christians are Catholic Christians. You should talk to a priest about this. God Bless, Memaw
 
TC3033 said:
Yep, agreed (even though we were told that this doesn’t happen earlier in the thread)
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I don’t believe the Church states that some Christians are not “full Christians” One is either Christian or not. And that is for God alone to judge. The issue is whether Christians are assenting to the full deposit of faith or not. And dissention is evident when rejecting Her Teaching or Sacraments. Communion in His Body and Blood demands unity of faith, one mind, one judgment and one leadership. Full Communion is accepting what said Communion leaders Teach fully.
 
As far as Love, friendship, respect etc, I would agree we all need that BUT when it comes to receiving Holy Communion in the Catholic Church, that is a very different matter. The Catholic Church knows and teaches exactly what Jesus Christ said our Holy Communion would be. This IS MY Body, This IS MY Blood. Others do NOT believe that. Our Mass is not just a supper table, come and eat. It is for our spiritual health that the Church has her rules about receiving Holy Communion. If we receive unworthily, we would be guilty of HIS Body and Blood. (1 Cor 11:23-29). The Church doesn’t want that burden for anyone. Even Catholics HAVE to be in the state of Grace to receive worthily. If they receive anyway, the burden is on them. Also and most important out of LOVE and respect for Our Lord we MUST be in the state of Grace to receive Him in Holy Communion. That is the highest obligation a Catholic has. Other denominations do not believe this and do not even respect the Catholic Church’s belief in the TRUE presence of Our Lord in the Holy Eucharist. If they did, they wouldn’t be almost demanding we allow open communion. That will never happen in the Catholic Church for reasons above. If one wants to participate fully in the Catholic Mass, they should consider studying the Catholic Faith so they could become a Catholic to do so. As for Catholics that receive communion in other denominations, that is NOT allowed by the Catholic Church either and they need to talk to a priest about it. Catholics that encourage others to receive Holy Communion no matter what, are in grave error also, and they need to talk to a priest also. God Bless, Memaw

The above is what I said, " Other denominations do not believe this," and what I meant was they do not believe as the Catholic Church does. God Bless, Memaw
 
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