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BartholomewB
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I think he means a musician who has completed a course at a school or conservatory and has a diploma or certificate to prove it.
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TheLittleLady
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Strange point of view. Does one’s religion make one incapable of selecting music?
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BartholomewB
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I didn’t know that, but it doesn’t surprise me. Some of the posters here might point to that as incontrovertible proof that St. John Paul II can’t have been a true Catholic, after all.
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TheMortenBay
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It could. Could a protestant be trusted to avoid choosing songs with protestant heresies? I don’t know.
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Pitcairn17
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I don’t know about your world, but in my world the bishop chooses what hymnals parishes in his diocese use as music sources. I doubt if too many “Protestant heresies” are lurking in what our bishop has approved.TheLittleLady:
It could. Could a protestant be trusted to avoid choosing songs with protestant heresies? I don’t know.
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ez3714
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Given our current crises, it would be a good idea for those wanting to perform ministry functions.
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DIERM
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I’m not sure what the “current Crises” is that you speak of…but I was being sarcastic, because to my knowledge there is not a Catholic Church Membership card in my wallet (more sarcasm).
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TheMortenBay
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There is in my wallet.
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TheMortenBay
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I didn’t even want to mention the Amazon synod…
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Angel_Bradford
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We have had two non-Catholic organists in the past and both were excellent!!!
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edward_george1
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None of which has the slightest thing to do with having a Protestant organist.
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Angel_Bradford
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Why would it be a problem?
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TheLittleLady
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If someone went rogue and announced “Oh, Sola Scriptura, How We Thee Proclaim” as the closing hymn, I’m guessing they would be fired before the parking lot was empty. Besides, who would have purchased that music? I promise you it is not in any of the Catholic hymnals nor Music Issue supplements that are available.
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Pitcairn17
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Actually, such a hymn would be drowned out by the rattling of car keys. And at least at our place, the speed with which the parking lot empties out gives the speed of light a run for its money.
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tafan2
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I think someone who plays a key role in planning parts of a Catholic liturgy should be Catholic. Experience has proven this to be true. We have a huge problem with quality of Catholic hymns already in many parishes, it won’t improve by hiring protestant choir directors.
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psc17
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I heard of a non catholic choir member on ewtn ,who eventually became a catholic seminarian!
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Angel_Bradford
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I disagree. We have had 2 prior non-Catholic choir directors and they were both excellent.
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Peeps
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The only church where I, the piainist/organist, have the freedom to choose the hymns for the worship is a Protestant church, and I often select hymns from their official denominational hymnal which they use, that are written by Catholics and have Catholic doctrines.
But in the Catholic churches where I play, the hymns and Mass setting are selected by the Music/Liturgy Director, who receives approval from their priest.
The hymns in Catholic parishes are from the Catholic hymnals, and hopefully these hymns do not contain any “protestant heresies,” although Catholics in the pews do seem to be able to see a demon in many of the hymns.
If you look for trouble, you will find it, or it will find YOU. If you spend your hymn-singing time during Mass searching for heresies in the hymns, you will totally miss a glorious part of the Mass–the congregational singing, which you cannot get at home unless you have several hundred people who live in your house. Sing! Make a joyful noise to the Lord!
@ez3714 Wow…really just…wow.
I’ve personally known and worked with two non-Catholic organists in my day. One of them eventually became Catholic. They were both incredible musicians. Even as non-Catholics they behaved reverently and respectfully in the setting of Holy Mass, oftentimes participating in the prayers and listening to the readings and homily…everything except receiving the Eucharist. They were also great people who showed much kindness to everyone in the ministry, and I considered both of them friends.
It’s a good thing the people of my parish were not this narrow minded, or we would have lost two great treasures that were blessings to us for several years.
I’ve personally known and worked with two non-Catholic organists in my day. One of them eventually became Catholic. They were both incredible musicians. Even as non-Catholics they behaved reverently and respectfully in the setting of Holy Mass, oftentimes participating in the prayers and listening to the readings and homily…everything except receiving the Eucharist. They were also great people who showed much kindness to everyone in the ministry, and I considered both of them friends.
It’s a good thing the people of my parish were not this narrow minded, or we would have lost two great treasures that were blessings to us for several years.
In my experience, the priest has (name removed by moderator)ut on what songs get chosen. Also, there is a list of appropriate songs to choose from for each liturgy. If a Protestant chose an inappropriate song, the priest would likely take care of it.TheLittleLady:
It could. Could a protestant be trusted to avoid choosing songs with protestant heresies? I don’t know.
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