what amazes me are people like you who see only what they want to see. if you read the article, the man really has a brain, only that it was crushed at the sides of his skull because of water buildup inside his head.
Mind collectively refers to the aspects of intellect and consciousness manifested as combinations of thought, perception, memory, emotion, will and imagination
You say it depends on the stage of pregnancy. Lets just say for argument sake that the unborn child meets your definition of human life at 90 days. What is your justification for aborting the child at 89 days? And doesn’t a child who has no feelings by your definition end just as dead as a child you claim has feelings?
that is a reasonable assumption. that there are more men who agree with abortion than women.
i’m sure they would understand. for me, it wouldnt matter if i was aborted before developing a mind. my mind is what makes me who i am and this mind did not begin in the first 90 days of my body’s existence.
I guess Agnos what gets to me is people like you who tend to judge another’s worth by something that they cannot see or touch. And yet you try to tell of us we are nuts because we refuse to make another fellow human something less than they are. Kind of like when the Hutu’s would tell others that the Tutsis were nothing more than cockroaches and snakes so that they can justify there death.
from a developed (enough) brain.
thats not my logic at all. unconscious people still have an active mind.
So what is a developed “enough” brain? And what age does this come into affect?
And how do you know this. I know when I was in college we were able to do all kinds of things to someone who was drunk enough that he wouldn’t of even known about or felt or ever had recollection of ever in his life. Sounds like for a short time he didn’t have a mind.
Rationality?
that the brain is not yet developed enough to host a mind.
yes. like the article i just posted above, of babies born without a brain. i fully agree with letting them die.
the totally subjective are the two extremes: (1) those who agree with abortion from 7 to 9 months, and (2) people like you who cannot agree with abortion even if the embryo is only 1 nanosecond old.
Why don’t you look your child in the eye and tell him the he was worthless until he developed into what you would you consider to be a human being and that you would have no problem killing him before he had a chance to be born if he didn’t meet your subjective definition of life.
Agnos - you are aware that this line of reasoning, taken to its logical conclusion, would justify the murder of many mentally impaired people, Alzhiemer’s, Parkinson suffers, mentally challenged, infants, and so on.
That is what this hedonistic society wants you to believe, that there are no moral distinctions, no natural law, no objective truth.
i certainly will when she becomes mature enough to understand my point.
no its not. all those conditions still possess minds. always remember, i am of a middle ground stand. i am not extreme.
Actually those are the only two objective cutoff points. You either protect life as soon as it exists or you protect it only when it exits the womb . Every stage in between requires a truly subjective opinion.
hey, is the ‘morning after pill’ a subjective opinion on abortion?
No, consciousness = self according to your arguments. When one’s concept of awareness, their consciousness, is impaired, then logically they are no longer persons.
Yes because there is no shade of gray here. The science is absolute. At conception, a human being is created.