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just_me
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Does any one know, please, are there any non-catholics who have been canonized? Is it possible for this to happen?
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Kielbasi
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no, you had to have been Catholic to be canonized as a saint in the Catholic church.
That doesn’t mean that there aren’t non-catholics who are saints in heaven, just to be canonized being a Catholic is a prerequisite.
That doesn’t mean that there aren’t non-catholics who are saints in heaven, just to be canonized being a Catholic is a prerequisite.
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Brendan
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To be a Canonized Saint is to be a model for the Church on how to live a sactified life.
In involves a declaration that the person’s life was one of “heroic virtue”
So it is technically possible for someone who was Baptized and lived a holy life, but had never heard the teachings of the visible Catholic Church could be canonized a saint.
The key here is “never heard the teachings”
If someone actively rejected the Catholic Church, well, unrepented disobedience to the Church is hardly a life of “heroic virtue”
So it’s very, very unlikely
In involves a declaration that the person’s life was one of “heroic virtue”
So it is technically possible for someone who was Baptized and lived a holy life, but had never heard the teachings of the visible Catholic Church could be canonized a saint.
The key here is “never heard the teachings”
If someone actively rejected the Catholic Church, well, unrepented disobedience to the Church is hardly a life of “heroic virtue”
So it’s very, very unlikely
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Br.Rich_SFO
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just me:
Most non-Catholics do not live out the Catholic faith or otherwise they would be Catholic!
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stbruno
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SAINTS: PRIVILEGED WITNESSES OF THE PRIMACY OF CHARITY
VATICAN CITY, JAN 29, 2006 (VIS) - The primacy of charity and its most privileged witnesses, in other words the saints, provided the central theme of the Pope’s reflections this morning, before praying the Angelus with the faithful gathered in St. Peter’s Square.
“In truth,” he continued, “the entire history of the Church is a history of sanctity, animated by the one Love which has its source in God. Indeed, only supernatural charity, such as that which flows ever new from the heart of Christ, can explain the prodigious flowering over the centuries of religious orders and institutes both male and female, as well as other forms of consecrated life. … These men and women, whom the Spirit of Christ has formed as models of evangelical devotion, lead us to consider the importance of consecrated life as an expression, and a school, of charity.”
In my opinion…there are plenty of saints in heaven who are non-Catholic however, the purpose of canonizing saints, is that they are role models for us here on earth. They lead us closer in unity with the Risen Christ, through the fullness of the Catholic Church. Praise God for that!
VATICAN CITY, JAN 29, 2006 (VIS) - The primacy of charity and its most privileged witnesses, in other words the saints, provided the central theme of the Pope’s reflections this morning, before praying the Angelus with the faithful gathered in St. Peter’s Square.
“In truth,” he continued, “the entire history of the Church is a history of sanctity, animated by the one Love which has its source in God. Indeed, only supernatural charity, such as that which flows ever new from the heart of Christ, can explain the prodigious flowering over the centuries of religious orders and institutes both male and female, as well as other forms of consecrated life. … These men and women, whom the Spirit of Christ has formed as models of evangelical devotion, lead us to consider the importance of consecrated life as an expression, and a school, of charity.”
In my opinion…there are plenty of saints in heaven who are non-Catholic however, the purpose of canonizing saints, is that they are role models for us here on earth. They lead us closer in unity with the Risen Christ, through the fullness of the Catholic Church. Praise God for that!
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Michael_C
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I believe the Martyrs of Uganda were not Catholic and they are recognized as canonized Saints.
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mercygate
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Michael C:
You get half credit. Some of the 32 Martyrs of Uganda were Catholic and others were Anglican. In the Sacramentary, the memorial is “Charles Lwanga and companions.”
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FCEGM
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just me:
If by that you mean non-Catholics canonized by the Church, then no. But if you mean by other apostolic Churches not in union with the See of Peter, then yes. For instance, the Russian Orthodox have canonized the last Czar, Nicholas II, his wife Alexandra, and their children. Also, the Greek Orthodox reverence St. Photios, he so involved in the schism of East and West.
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Eileen_T
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Only Catholics can be canonised as Catholic Saints.
If not, Ghandi would probably head the list.
If not, Ghandi would probably head the list.
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carol_marie
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Eileen T:
But what about the Old Test. faithfuls who I was told are Saints? (Like Abraham?)
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jimmy
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carol marie:
They are Catholics. The Catholic Church views itself as Judaism as it should have continued. The Jews were expected to accept Christ, those who did were continued on the path to righteousness.
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carol_marie
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Really? Is that true? I’ve never heard that before.
I do learn something new everyday.
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Mijoy2
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I hope this isn’t too far off topic for this thread. If it is I apologize. I thought to begin a new thread but I find myself sometimes reluctant to do so in the event it gathers no interest…seems like thread waste 
This thread got me thinking about lives of the saints in the respect that to my knowledge it would appear the powerful mystical lives of many saints do not seem to have counterparts in other Christian faiths.
Catholics can site many many saints who have had profound mystical experiences (apparitions of spirits (angels), apparitions of Jesus, apparitions of Mary, stigmatas, physical confrontations with the enemy, ecstasy in prayer, welcomed physical manifistations of Jesus’ wounds…on and on). Yet (again to the best of my knowledge) I an unaware of non-Catholics having such experiences. Of those of which I am aware they became Catholic following the experience.
How does the non-Catholic (I wonder) reconcile this? It must be difficult to explain away hundreds of such occurances especially when the people experiences such things were otherwise quite normal…even Holy. How do Catholics reconcile this?
This thread got me thinking about lives of the saints in the respect that to my knowledge it would appear the powerful mystical lives of many saints do not seem to have counterparts in other Christian faiths.
Catholics can site many many saints who have had profound mystical experiences (apparitions of spirits (angels), apparitions of Jesus, apparitions of Mary, stigmatas, physical confrontations with the enemy, ecstasy in prayer, welcomed physical manifistations of Jesus’ wounds…on and on). Yet (again to the best of my knowledge) I an unaware of non-Catholics having such experiences. Of those of which I am aware they became Catholic following the experience.
How does the non-Catholic (I wonder) reconcile this? It must be difficult to explain away hundreds of such occurances especially when the people experiences such things were otherwise quite normal…even Holy. How do Catholics reconcile this?
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jimmy
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carol marie:
Catholicism is the fullfilled Judaism.Really? Is that true? I’ve never heard that before.
I do learn something new everyday.
Thanks
CM
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