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coco2
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All I can say is āholy smokes!ā. I am scared to death after reading these.
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coco2
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What is a revenant?
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batman1973
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From dictionary.com:
revenant [rev-uh-nuhnt] ā
revĀ·eĀ·nantā ā[rev-uh-nuhnt]
noun
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a person who returns.
2.
a person who returns as a spirit after death; ghost.
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Inego_de_Loyola
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Those are correct definitions but not quite the sense Iām using. A revenant is a recurring ghostly image, sound, event, etc. that is not caused by a currently present spirit. In other words it has the appearance of a haunting, but no sign of an intelligent agent.
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Inego_de_Loyola
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Trust in Christ. I know from experience that he is stronger than anything that goes bump in the night.All I can say is āholy smokes!ā. I am scared to death after reading these.
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Bezant
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Iāve never seen a ghost or anything completely unexplainable, but Iāve heard stories, and I believe they are real.
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Nine_Two
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Iām curious about peoples opinion on what Sleep Paralysis is? Is it spiritual, or is it a halucination as medical science states. I read descriptions of it and Iāve met people who have experiences that meet most of the criteria, but not all. One person Iāve spoken to mentioned that he was awake for several minutes before it hit.
For those who donāt know what it is:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_Paralysis
For those who donāt know what it is:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_Paralysis
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Inego_de_Loyola
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Demonic oppression beyond doubt and if it happened to you (it did to me) you would say the same thing.
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Inego_de_Loyola
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It happened when I was twelve, I woke and sat up in bed I looked to the side of my bed and saw a crypt like set of stone double doors coming out of the floor. I saw a brilliant blue white orb of light ~3 feet in diameter fly through the doors, and I was taken by its beauty, but only for a moment, as almost immediately I was thrown back against the bed and it felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest crushing the life out of me. All through this I kept trying to say something though I didnāt know what; I only knew that it was the most important thing I had ever said, and I could hear myself struggling to say the k sound over and over, until I finally yelled out the loudest thing I had ever said, āCHRIST!ā. Not only was it immediately over but I could tell violence had been done to my attacker. Words cannot describe the authority and power of the demons defeat. As I said it was the loudest I had ever yelled, but even though my brothers were in the same room with me and my parents were a thin Sheetrock wall away no one stirred. This was undoubtedly demonic and related to other demonic incidents at that time of my life caused by someone close to me, not dabbling, but jumping into the occult with both feet.
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dje101
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I have a firefighter friend who said that he and a coworker were at their station one night in the kitchen. They were the only two there (small town volunteer dept). Anyways, he said during the night, when the whole place was locked up and they were sitting in the kitchen, he heard tapping, like fingernails on glass. They looked over to a window that separated the kitchen and a hallway to see a small girl staring at them. They waved to her, she waved back, then ran away. They chased after her, but were unable to locate her anywhere in the station, which was completely locked down.
I donāt know what to believe regarding ghosts, but this one gave me chills when he told me.
I donāt know what to believe regarding ghosts, but this one gave me chills when he told me.
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Bezant
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Some people say that your soul walks out of your body when you sleep, and sleep paralysis happens when you wake up before it comes back.
I donāt believe this at all. The scientific explanations seem to make sense.
I experienced sleep paralysis once a few years ago. I opened my eyes half-awake, and wanted to move my arms, but couldnāt. I was aware enough to realize it was wrong and was scared, but eventually I went back to sleep.
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AnAtheist
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Hey, just like me.
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CB_Catholic
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Many years ago, during a very emotional and stressful time in my life I used to have episodes of sleep paralysis. I would be awake and aware of my surroundings, but I could not move. This often was accompanied by auditory and tactile hallucinationsāI would āhearā certain things; once I āfeltā something on my chest, crushing me, something evil I thought. It could be terrifying, like a bad nightmare. It also could be rather sexual.
I experienced these fairly regularly until the situation resolved and the stress abated. Then they quit occurring. It has probably been close to 20 years, and I think Iāve had maybe one minor episode.
I have never attributed this to anything supernatural. I consider it a sleep disorder brought on by extreme emotional distress, which resolved once the stress resolved, in my case. There may be other causes in other people, but from what I read, stress is a fairly common precipitator. I do not, and never will, believe this is a result of demonic activity. It is a sleep disorder. It is a subject that is well-researched, has data to back up the scientific conclusion of what it is, and is entirely explainable scientifically. All of which would DISqualify it from being a supernatural or preternatural phenomenon if the Church would investigate it.
I also believe that most of the tales of incubi and succubi are actually the hallucinations which occur during sleep paralysis.
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GaryTaylor
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Stress and trauma are often ātheā cause of seperation of conscious and unconscious. Many other reasons also, medical and mental heath, genetics etc.
Nevertheless, while one may not believe, it would wiser to say I do not know, nor have experienced any of this. In fact that would be the more accurate statement of truth.
Your traveling through the supernatural, the fact you canāt comprehend this in your mind, only indicates your own lack of experience with it, very common to disbelieve what you havenāt witnessed and also to rationalize one time events.
Disbelief will not change truth to any degree. All it means is one has deemed his own lack of experience not related to fact more relevant than another actual experience which others have in fact witnessed.
Science is the knowledge of facts and princibles of the physical and material world gained by a systematic study. And as we see its still in its infancy.
The Lord talks about faith in a constant manner. There is the concept which leads his followers to Him. Those are the souls He choseās otherwise there would be no seperation of true believers and pretenders. So then you receive the test before the lesson. Grace follows your constant path of belief through endurance.
Science and religion do not work against each other they walk a path side by side constantly coming closer together. And in many different fields let alone just medical and the mind.
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Inego_de_Loyola
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There are scientific theories regarding it that have never been demonstrated or tested in a controlled environment. That people have proposed theories on the subject doesnāt make it a closed case, and from the stand point of an ecclesiastical investigation it would be considered inconclusive by itself. Interesting to note the chemical that immobilizes you during sleep never restricts your lungs, which just happens to be part of the definition of āSleep Paralysisā, further when woken from deep sleep people do not tend to experience it. As noted in my example, I was awake and had moved around prior to the incident, and there was outside confirmation of demonic influence. This obviously isnāt a dogmatic statement, but itās food for thought.
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Bob_Crowley
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I had a look at the site above about nursesā experiences with ghosts, and lifted the story below, as it reminded me of a joke, which Iāll relate at the bottom.
Joke - A doctor had a hypochondriac for a patient, who sorely tested his patience, with all sorts of imaginary illnesses and maladies.
But eventually the doctor died. And then the hypochondriac died.
Next thing he knows, the doctor hears this knocking on his coffin wall. When he realised who it was, he cried out, āOh, not you again! I thought I got rid of you when I died!ā
This voice drifted through the coffin wall, āYeah, well ā¦ Hey, Doc, you got anything for worms??ā
meltzerboy
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However, in Judaism, Satan is not thought of as a demon; rather, he is a messenger from G-d sent to Earth to test us, while hoping we can resist his temptations by exercising our free will. He is the Tempter as well as the Accuser in Heaven, who forces us to honestly judge our lives. He also executes the sentence passed by G-d.
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Inego_de_Loyola
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That is a bit of a broad statement. I can find you documents of several Jewish sects ancient and new that disagree. I donāt think it is wise to say āJudaism believes Xā without defining which variety of Judaism your referring to. As Iām sure your aware the people of Israel are a diverse bunch.
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Inego_de_Loyola
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Count yourself lucky, most preternatural encounters are a bad thing.
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Zundrah
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I use to talk to a girl from Indonesia Online called Shatte, she told me about her neighbor and that she was getting sold by her father after the mother had died and he wasted all the money on drinking constantly. She was always assured by her mother that she would be able to marry the boy sheād been friends with all the years of her life. She was so upset about what her father was going to do that she set herself on fire, committing suicide.
Shatte then told me that on the day of her funeral she had a sports event and asked her mum to please let her stay out of the funeral so that she could take part in the event. The mum after a while said that she could but that she herself wouldnāt join her because it was a bad thing that they would both regret for not respecting the dead.
Shatte told me that late that night she was sitting on the kitchen window and the girl who had died appeared just a few feet in front of her, she pulled this thing off of her face and smiled peacefully (which women had to use to cover themselves) it drifted in the wind and touched Shatteās face and she screamed. Her mum came in and Shatte told her what happened, her mum said it was because she didnāt go to the funeral.
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