Non-Catholic Supernatural Experiences - your take?

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What you described gives a lot of credibility as to why you believe your experiences to be demonic. For the record, I kind of do believe you. I do think it is way diffrent than what I was talking about though.
Inego_de_Loyola said:
As I said earlier I won’t force the view that it was demonic, but I should point out that drug use and the lifestyles associated with it are means by which one can invite demons into your life beyond ordinary temptation.
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Yes this is very true. I dont think it was so in my case though. I stopped feeling like I was being attacked when I learned that sleep paralysis was a common and natural thing. And I did learn this even before I entirely quit. And my episodes stopped all together when I had slowed down on the drugs a lot and was getting more regular sleep. I 99.9% know that my experiences were brought on by the lack of sleep I was getting. This was later confirmed when I had my last episode about a year and a half ago, when I had a unusually busy schedule and was not getting very much sleep for long periods of time. Lack of sleep from my drug use is what seemed to bring on the episodes for me, not the drug use in and of itself. If they were demonic attacks, I made them go away by getting more sleep and just choosing to believe that they are not demonic attacks. :cool: Perhaps when I am in rcia later this year, I will talk to sombody about it all and get some other opinions. Maybe my opinion will be the minority.

I know a lot of people who use to do (or still do) drugs who claim to have had supernatural experiences. It amazes me that a lot of them never stop to think that maybe it was (or is) solely due to the fact that they were under the influence of drugs and in a altered state of mind. In other words “Their minds were playing tricks on them.” I know drug users who claim to have experienced all kinds of supernatural things. Visiting heaven, meeting the devil, seeing angels, being attacked by demons ect. I guess that it is because of this that I am a firm believer in first being able to rule out all possible natural explanations for somthing before we lable it supernatural. I think this is important so I DO NOT invite any demons into my life. Kind of understand where I am comming from? I thank God my ex drug addiction is behind me. And I will also testify that faith, love, will power and knowledge is a better cure for drug addiction than any 12 step program or rehab. 🙂
 
LaughingBoy1503 said:
What you described gives a lot of credibility as to why you believe your experiences to be demonic. For the record, I kind of do believe you. I do think it is way diffrent than what I was talking about though.

Yes this is very true. I dont think it was so in my case though. I stopped feeling like I was being attacked when I learned that sleep paralysis was a common and natural thing. And I did learn this even before I entirely quit. And my episodes stopped all together when I had slowed down on the drugs a lot and was getting more regular sleep. I 99.9% know that my experiences were brought on by the lack of sleep I was getting. This was later confirmed when I had my last episode about a year and a half ago, when I had a unusually busy schedule and was not getting very much sleep for long periods of time. Lack of sleep from my drug use is what seemed to bring on the episodes for me, not the drug use in and of itself. If they were demonic attacks, I made them go away by getting more sleep and just choosing to believe that they are not demonic attacks. :cool: Perhaps when I am in rcia later this year, I will talk to sombody about it all and get some other opinions. Maybe my opinion will be the minority.

I know a lot of people who use to do (or still do) drugs who claim to have had supernatural experiences. It amazes me that a lot of them never stop to think that maybe it was (or is) solely due to the fact that they were under the influence of drugs and in a altered state of mind. In other words “Their minds were playing tricks on them.” I know drug users who claim to have experienced all kinds of supernatural things. Visiting heaven, meeting the devil, seeing angels, being attacked by demons ect. I guess that it is because of this that I am a firm believer in first being able to rule out all possible natural explanations for somthing before we lable it supernatural. I think this is important so I DO NOT invite any demons into my life. Kind of understand where I am comming from? I thank God my ex drug addiction is behind me. And I will also testify that faith, love, will power and knowledge is a better cure for drug addiction than any 12 step program or rehab. 🙂
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When you mix drugs and lack of sleep, add in the power of suggestion, and one is ripe for subconcious hysteria… And trust me, the subconcious is real, real, REAL tricky and deceptive. Involuntary motions, voices, sensations, the subconcious can do it all, and twice as fast.

These Pentacostals? That yell in these weird ways? Or move their bodies all over? You got it, subconcious hysteria. It’s the subconcious becoming concious due to constant urging, provacation, and/or drugs that cause a hyper-energetic thought process… They just bust loose. It’s all really quite fascinating. Some urge the state, but it’s stupid, it can lead to psychosis.

…The Holy Spirit is much more refined, subtle, graceful.
 
PatrickSanDiego said:
When you mix drugs and lack of sleep, add in the power of suggestion, and one is ripe for subconcious hysteria… And trust me, the subconcious is real, real, REAL tricky and deceptive. Involuntary motions, voices, sensations, the subconcious can do it all, and twice as fast.

These Pentacostals? That yell in these weird ways? Or move their bodies all over? You got it, subconcious hysteria. It’s the subconcious becoming concious due to constant urging, provacation, and/or drugs that cause a hyper-energetic thought process… They just bust loose. It’s all really quite fascinating. Some urge the state, but it’s stupid, it can lead to psychosis.

…The Holy Spirit is much more refined, subtle, graceful.
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👍 Yup.

Intrestingly enough I remember going to what I assume was a pentecostal church once when I was a kid. I remember the pastor placing his hands on people and praying over them and a lot of people falling over and fainting. I guess it is called being “slain in the spirit”. When It was my turn and the pastor laid his hands on me and started shouting and praying… nothing happened to me at all. 🤷
My Grandmother is a pentecostol. I told her about my intent to become Catholic. She is very accepting of it, but sadly also told me “Catholics do not recieve the Holy Spirit.” I guess that is what she thinks of people who do not woship and act the way Pentecostals do. :rolleyes:
 
This is a very good question. I apologize for not reading all seven pages of this thread (that’s quite the intimidating task), so pardon me if this has already been addressed by another user:

How do Catholics discriminate between legitimate supernatural phenomena which occur among Catholics and the (presumably) non-legitimate encounters among non-Catholics? Is it the position of the Catholic Church that non-Catholics are incapable of experiencing supernatural phenomena?

Even if the Catholic Church acknowledges the supernatural experiences of those of other faiths, how can the Catholic faithful point to Catholic “miracles” as evidence of the veracity of their faith (e.g. the Fatima apparitions as most proximate and the Constantinian conversion story as most removed)?
 
PatrickSanDiego said:
When you mix drugs and lack of sleep, add in the power of suggestion, and one is ripe for subconcious hysteria… And trust me, the subconcious is real, real, REAL tricky and deceptive. Involuntary motions, voices, sensations, the subconcious can do it all, and twice as fast.

…The Holy Spirit is much more refined, subtle, graceful.
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Don’t even need drugs or alcohol just add stress and trauma in their place…same senerio. Distorted reality.

There’s no explaining what your imagination can make you see and feel. Any many medical aspects take on the mask of supernatural.

As far as the Penetecostal they tap into that part of the brain, but theres such a emmense group activity going on, it reminds me much more of the early stages of meditation and self hypnosis, though centered on the Lord.

I’m too Catholic for all the ya-hoo stuff. Silent suffering and a personal relationship seems to attract me more with a complete centered focus on the Lord through the Blessed Mother today. 🤷

I’m in eternal dept to God, already concluded I’ll be doing this for now on.
 
GaryTaylor said:
So what did the next door neighbor have a premonition? Does he do that regular?
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Hi Gary,
I don’t know what you would call it. He just knew it should be removed, and as soon as he spoke the words, the phone rang.

Before that phone call, my doctors didn’t think the spot detected on the PET Scan was anything to worry about. The Oncologist said he didn’t think it was even necessary to do a biopsy.
GaryTaylor said:
Didn’t realize God and the Communion of Saints were on 24-hr call hey? 🙂
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I don’t understand what you are trying to say here. Would you explain? 🙂

Peace,
Anna
 
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