Non-Catholics don't get it!

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Okay so after Thanksgiving Mass, I went over to my parent’s house for Thanksgiving and to spend the night. Everything was going okay all day Thursday.

On Friday before leaving, however, I told my parents - who are Protestant - that I would like to try to go to Mass at least two times a week. One obviously on Sunday and maybe on other time, like Wednesday or Friday. I also told them that I go to Confession once a week than after that, visit our Lord in the Eucharistic Adoration.

My mother told me that there’s no need for me to be going to church three times a week because it costs gas money for the car (c’mon, the parish is approx. two miles from my apartment and the car I drive is good on gas) and my college homework comes first. Or does it?? :rolleyes:

She also told me that there’s NO NEED to be going to Confession every week either and I corrected her and told her yes there is a need if you’ve committed any sin, big or little. See, my parents aren’t Catholic obviously so what do they know? :ehh: She told me that if I go to Confession on Saturdays, then might as well stay for Mass on Saturdays. I told her no because I would prefer Sundays because that’s the day we worship. Same with Saturdays too, she told me. Yes that’s true too (my parents go to a church where they have Saturday evenings too) but I prefer Sundays. She told me it’s wasting car gas.

And of course, she kind of discouraged me when she said that I shouldn’t go to Mass two times a week, why do I need to do that when I can go on Sunday. I told her that we get nourished by Jesus in the Holy Eucharist - which my parents don’t understand either - and she just looked at me like whatever. She again told me that my college homework comes first. I was so upset I told her, “Fine, than I’ll tell our Lord that I can’t come see Him than!” I didn’t mean that to our Lord but I said it to let my mother know she was really pushing it. Oooh, I was mad!

Okay, I’m in a chaos situation here: I don’t want to make my mother angry for wasting car gas by going to Mass, Confession, etc. but on the other hand, this is part of my Catholic Faith and when a family is Protestant and Catholic, you get into terrible disputes about what to do and what not to do. Since my parents aren’t Catholic obviously, they don’t understand or get what we as Catholics believe. What we think is very important non-Catholics will think it’s nothing. I can’t stand that! That irritates me!

I’m very disappointed that she would even tell me something like that. Heck, before getting confirmed, she told me, “you really need to get involved with your church” and then when I do, it’s “oh, I’m wasting car gas and should be doing my college homework!” :banghead:

Besides, I thought putting God in your life was #1! Or did I misunderstand that statement?

Do you guys have any suggestions on how to deal with this?
 
Do you own your own car and pay for your own gas? Then, it is really nothing for her to say. It is not costing her anything.

And, yes, God should be the number One person in your life. Before your parents, your spouse, and your friends. Your relationship with Him is the most important relationship you’ll ever have. And you should visit Him in his house. The more times the better.

For a time daily Mass was in my schedule. I am from the Mississippi Gulf Coast and have had a time getting back in the swing of things since Katrina. But, I do plan on returning to Mass daily. Immediately, after the storm, I also stopped saying the Rosary daily. I’ve since started that again. I think that the daily Rosary has been the biggest boost in my life.

Paul
 
I’m completely confused… why would you bring this up at all if you know it’s a hot button issue?

Is your mother paying for the gas and college? If so, she may have a valid concern and it isn’t neccessary (as in not required of all Catholics) to go that often - just a good thing to do. If you can afford to do these things on the gas allowance she gives and it doesn’t conflict with your homework (assuming she pays for those things), then I see no arguement here. Even most protestant faiths go to church on Wednesday and Sunday.
 
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goldenautumnday:
Do you own your own car and pay for your own gas? Then, it is really nothing for her to say. It is not costing her anything.

And, yes, God should be the number One person in your life. Before your parents, your spouse, and your friends. Your relationship with Him is the most important relationship you’ll ever have. And you should visit Him in his house. The more times the better.

Paul
No I don’t “own” my own car…it’s really my mom’s 'cause it’s in her name though she told me she’ll let me have it after I graduate from college (which is next semester) though I’ll have to pay for everything.

I don’t work if I’m in college and my parents are nice enough to help out and support me. It would be impossible to both work and go to college full time.

Though after she told me what she said, I really want to get a job and pay for everything so I’m not so bombarded!
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Paris Blues,

First, I commend you on your faith. Second, pray a lot for your parents understanding and conversion. How open are your parents to reading or listening about the Catholic Faith? There is a good 30 page book called “Pillar of fire Pillar of truth” that is free from Catholic Answers. You can call them toll free at 1-800-291-8000. Also John Martignoni has apologetic CD’s or cassttes for free (1.00 each for shipping and handling). He has 14 different CD’s and I have listened to each one numerous times and I pick something up each time. John’s CD’s give biblical reasons for why we are catholic and why we believe what we believe as Catholics. I would recommend those to anyone wanting to understand the Catholic Church. Go to www.biblechristiansociety.com

Good luck in your undertaking and keep on practicing your faith.

By the way, how did you come to be Catholic when your parents are protestants?

I to came froma protestant household, but I married into the CC. Then decided to join when my 2nd daughter was baptised. It’s been a great journey. 👍

God Bless
 
Rob’s Wife said:
I’m completely confused… why would you bring this up at all if you know it’s a hot button issue?

Is your mother paying for the gas and college? If so, she may have a valid concern and it isn’t neccessary
(as in not required of all Catholics) to go that often - just a good thing to do. If you can afford to do these things on the gas allowance she gives and it doesn’t conflict with your homework (assuming she pays for those things), then I see no arguement here. Even most protestant faiths go to church on Wednesday and Sunday.

Well, I think it’s a big deal to me because it’s like saying that saving gas and homework is MORE important than Jesus!
 
It does not sound to me that she is really upset about the gas. She is upset about something else. A two-mile drive twice a week is not going to cost anything.

Were they supportive of your decision to become Catholic?
 
Paris Blues:

My mother told me that there’s no need for me to be going to church three times a week because it costs gas money for the car (c’mon, the parish is approx. two miles from my apartment and the car I drive is good on gas) and my college homework comes first. Or does it?? :rolleyes:
2 miles? You could walk and pray a rosary on the way.

Or, if it will help, I’ll send you gas money if you agree to pray for me. Let’s see… 2 miles, round trip = 4 miles, 2 extra times a week = 8 miles, 52 weeks per year = 416 miles. 25 miles/gallon = 19 gallons, $2/gallon = $38. It’s a deal!! What’s your mailing address? If you seriously have a gas problem, I will seriously send you $38 for a year of your prayers.
Paris Blues:
She also told me that there’s NO NEED to be going to Confession every week either and I corrected her and told her yes there is a need if you’ve committed any sin, big or little.
Not to mention it helps you overcome faults.
Paris Blues:

She again told me that my college homework comes first.
And God will help you to do it more easily and quickly without getting bogged down.
Paris Blues:
I was so upset I told her, “Fine, than I’ll tell our Lord that I can’t come see Him than!” I didn’t mean that to our Lord but I said it to let my mother know she was really pushing it. Oooh, I was mad!
Oops.
Paris Blues:
… you get into terrible disputes about what to do and what not to do. Since my parents aren’t Catholic obviously, they don’t understand or get what we as Catholics believe. What we think is very important non-Catholics will think it’s nothing. I can’t stand that! That irritates me!
I have been able to overcome such a disposition only after seeking and finding acceptance and consolation from God. Once I had that, I didn’t mind what the others thought or said. Perhaps you are looking for something from them they cannot or will not give you?
Paris Blues:
I’m very disappointed that she would even tell me something like that. Heck, before getting confirmed, she told me, “you really need to get involved with your church” and then when I do, it’s “oh, I’m wasting car gas and should be doing my college homework!”

Do you guys have any suggestions on how to deal with this?
I suggest you strive to accept the fact that they do not accept you or your faith, and that they do not even accept their own advice for whatever reason. Are you waiting for others to change before you advance closer to God? Perhaps they are waiting until you are closer to Him… seek to be pleasing and acceptable to God both in deed and thoughts. We acquire virtue or vice by means of our neighbor. God allows us to be tried by the faults of others. Be thankful for the trials and practice patience.

James 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy, when you shall fall into divers temptations; 3 Knowing that the trying of your faith worketh patience. 4 And patience hath a perfect work; that you may be perfect and entire, failing in nothing.

hurst
 
I will pray for you! i have gotten flack from my parents too and I am well out of college and a Mom too! And why do folks always get hostile aobut confession??

But you will see God will give you lots of graces to do whatever you have to do and say whatever you have to say. Doing the right thing in the face of oppsition is always hard to do. But after you do the right thing you feel good, and stronger. You will find the dread of the conflict is way worse than the conflict.

Its kind of like going to confession. You never want to go. But you always feel so good after.

That said, you want to do everything you can to honor your parents, and save ignoring their advice and reccommendations for the important times! They are helping you thru college in many ways, and its not easy having the nest emptying. They are probably looking at never having you live with them again they way it was before. Even though thats the goal of parenting, its still very hard. So they may be hanging on to the “right” to advise you - they may really need that psychologically - and continually being rebuffed by you is very painful for them.

They probably feel inside they should be getting from you their due - that is honor from you.

And since you can’t honor them in their desire to have their normal non-Catholic girl back, it would be good to honor them in whatever way you can.

All that to say can’t you just honor their pitch to teach you to save gas money and do your confession and Mass on Saturday night instead? Its not the ideal, but its approved by the Church and God would be pleased to see you honoring your parents. You’ll have your time to do it your way before you know it. Time flies.
 
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Fish:
Paris Blues,

By the way, how did you come to be Catholic when your parents are protestants?

God Bless
My parents told me that I could join any religion I wanted to. No, they are not anti-Catholic.
 
Paris Blues:
Well, I think it’s a big deal to me because it’s like saying that saving gas and homework is MORE important than Jesus!
**I’m sure it seems that way to you, but that doesn’t mean that is the way it actually is. It sounds to me like she wants to make sure you have your duty to family and school taken care of. Jesus is important, but the realities of life cannot be avoided either. **

**If the gas money is hers, then you should be sure to stay within the amount she has given you or find your own money to make up the difference. It may not seem like much to you, but it’s not your money with which to make decisions. If she doesn’t give you a set amount, ask her to nicely so that you can budget your gas use and there is no arguement over it in the future. **

Same goes for school. If the extra mass you want to attend conflicts with school needs, then you should make the decision to go to another mass that will not or dedicate your school work to Him instead.

"Duty before everything else, even something holy."
- Saint Padre Pio

"When I read in the Life
of St. Catherine of Siena… I must own that I behold her with no less delight in her father’s kitchen… and doing all the most menial offices in a loving spirit which looked through all things straight to God… Let this example, my daughter, teach you how important it is to dedicate all we do, however trifling, to His service. … Great occassions for serving God come seldom, but little ones surround us daily…"

- Introduction to the Devout Life by St. Frances de Sales
Chapter XXXV titled We must be faithful in things great and small.


Peace -
 
hurst said:
2 miles? You could walk and pray a rosary on the way.

Or, if it will help, I’ll send you gas money if you agree to pray for me. Let’s see… 2 miles, round trip = 4 miles, 2 extra times a week = 8 miles, 52 weeks per year = 416 miles. 25 miles/gallon = 19 gallons, $2/gallon = $38. It’s a deal!! What’s your mailing address? If you seriously have a gas problem, I will seriously send you $38 for a year of your prayers.

Haha! I highly doubt you would do this. But no thanks! 😉 I’ll still pray for you anyway.
 
Okay, I’m going to do some reading between the lines on what really is upsetting your mother. I could be completely wrong. But just maybe…

You have expressed here on the forums the fact that you seem to be drawn to a vocation in the Catholic Church. Mom wants grandchildren and does not see how a person can be truly happy married to Christ. Going to Church more often will only encourage you down this path. So mom does not wish you to go more often.

Just a thought.

But if she feels that strongly about it, you did say it was only two miles. As other posters have suggested, walk for 1 Mass and confession. Use the time to enter into prayer. Since she is helping pay for things, you do need to repect her wishes as much as possible. And look for the real reason she doesn’t want you to go so much.

God Bless,
Maria
 
Another gas-saving suggestion. I told my nine-year-old son about your dilema with your parents wanting you to save gas money and he listened and suggested that you go to confession on Wednesday!

This is a great idea. We sometimes approach a Priest in the Sacristry after Mass and ask him if he will hear our confession, and Priests have always been happy to say yes.

If you do one of these gas-saving suggestions you can tell your parents, “I was thinking about what you told me about saving gas and thought it was good advice, so I decided to…”

Also my son wants me to tell you that he goes to confession every Wednesday, too. He does it with his school, isn’t that nice?
 
Paris Blues:
No I don’t “own” my own car…it’s really my mom’s 'cause it’s in her name though she told me she’ll let me have it after I graduate from college (which is next semester) though I’ll have to pay for everything.

I don’t work if I’m in college and my parents are nice enough to help out and support me. It would be impossible to both work and go to college full time.

Though after she told me what she said, I really want to get a job and pay for everything so I’m not so bombarded!
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I understand liking to go on Sunday more than on the Saturday Vigil Mass. However, both equally fulfill your obligation to keep Holy the Sabbath. Perhaps the cross you must bear will be going to the Saturday Vigil Mass so you don’t bother your mother. Go to Saturday Vigil Mass, and every little bit of ‘suffering’ and annoyance and disappointment this brings you-- offer it up to God and join it with Christ’s suffering, and that’s when it becomes redemptive. It’ll also do a bit towards making your mother more hospitable to your Catholic beliefs.

Also, going to Mass right after confession will ensure that you are properly disposed to receive the Eucharist, which I know you are very concerned about. It will have you in the best possible state to receive, and in a prayerful, contemplative state perfect for entering the Mass. (Always look on the bright side!)
 
Hi Paris Blues, the answer is simple.

Ride your bike to mass for exercise, and do some of your homework during mass.

Truth is many protestants attend church 3 to 8 times a week.

Sunday, mouring and eveing and mid week prayer service – the other five would include special classes and group bible studies.

nothing was written above using sacrcasim, I am serious.
 
quote Daniel Marsh/and do some of your homework during mass…/quote

:ehh: uh…no that probably wouldn’t be good.
 
Paris Blues:
Well, I think it’s a big deal to me because it’s like saying that saving gas and homework is MORE important than Jesus!

In itself - yes. But that is to look at it without asking, “What are the circumstances in which the person doing it lives ?” IOW - what are your circumstances ? You’ve said something about them in your first post - so they need taking into account. Not everything which is best in principle, is best for a particular person.​

One of the things about being Christian, is that everything we do that is not itself bad can be a means of glorifying God - because there is nothing so unimportant, so “common”, so trivial, that God cannot bless it. For those Christians who have homework to do, they can honour God and show their love for Him by doing the work they have to do anyway - Christians are able to do a “secular” thing like that, out of love for God. It is one way in which they share in His royal priesthood: for we can and must worship Him in all we do - not just as Mass or Confession. In that way, we are opening our lives up to God so that He can do His Will in and through us, just as we ask in the Lord’s Prayer.
Which is going to help you bring Christ’s peace to your home: going to Mass, when you don’t have to - or doing something which you are already have to do: your homework ? Only you know the details of your home life - but I would suggest your homework is more important. It is something you can do for God; not just because you have to do it anyway.

The choice seems to be: do you glorify God by going to Mass when you don’t have to - or by staying at home and doing something which needs doing anyway ? St Paul says,“As far as possible, be at peace with all men.”

You could always make a spiritual Communion - we do not have to be in Church to love God: we do have to love God while we are in Church. Going to Mass is not the one hour we give God because we have no other time to spare for Him - it should be the high point of a whole week in which He has been in our hearts and our lives, and the beginning of another in which we continue to live like that. God is Lord of every moment we live: everything - homework & relationships included - should be for Him & serve Him: that is why our relationships with others are so important: they are ways by which He comes to us through others, and through us to them. ##
 
Personally if I were you Paris, I would have never mentioned any of it to your mom in the first place, sometimes what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her. 🙂
 
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