Non-Catholics have you learned anything you didn't know about Catholics?

[mean_owen]

Lisa4Catholics:

That sounds great to me. In heaven the starbucks will not be allowed to charge $4.00 for a cup of coffee.Talk about taking advantage of addictions.God Bless

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Or maybe at least in Heaven people will be smart enuf not to pay $4.00/cup.

 

[puzzleannie]

we will always be wide awake, so maybe we won’t need starbucks. I think the poster who has noticed how Protestants and Catholics often talk past each other is on the mark. Sometimes we use different words to mean the same thing, or we define and expand on biblical words and concepts differently, or we place different emphasis on various aspects of shared belief, to the detriment of good understanding of the whole of revelation. These errors come from the human sin of pride, of assuming that our intellects are sufficienct to understand God’s revelation and purpose, if only we study harder, learn more languages, read more books. We forget about needing the guidance of the the Holy Spirit, and assume that what we hear inside as the echo of our own voice and confirmation of our own assumptions is in fact the voice of God.

As Catholics we sometimes err by reducing doctrine to sound bytes and acronymns EENS etc. without fully understanding the exposition and development of the doctrine. We sometimes err by not taking time to read the footnotes in the Catechism, encyclical or V2 document, that give the source of the statement in scripture, the fathers, tradition. We fall back on the catechism class mentality of believing that because I have memorized a true statement of doctrine, it means I fully comprehend the doctrine.

 

[Tmaque]

I, for one, would like to thank all the Non-catholics for their participation in this forum. I learn much from you. Most of you are great people.

 

[michaelp]

mean_owen:

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Or maybe at least in Heaven people will be smart enuf not to pay $4.00/cup.

Or, better yet, maybe in heaven we will be able to afford it!

 

[GilKobrin]

Lisa4Catholics:

Just wondering if you have learned something you didn’t know about Catholics here?God Bless and Glad your here

Well, I just joined today, but I learned that “Fr.” stands for “Father,” not “Friar”…

Are there still friars?

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

GilKobrin:

Well, I just joined today, but I learned that “Fr.” stands for “Father,” not “Friar”…

Are there still friars?

Great to have you here! God BlessYes there are still friars as far as I know

 

[PaulDupre]

GilKobrin:

Well, I just joined today, but I learned that “Fr.” stands for “Father,” not “Friar”…

Are there still friars?

Sure, Friar means “brother” and is used to denote consecrated religious of certain orders who are not ordained priests. They take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience and work in various ministries.

see newadvent.org/cathen/06280b.htm

Welcome and God bless you,
Paul

 

[GilKobrin]

I thank both of you!

I find monastic orders to be very interesting, conceptually speaking.

I see it now - friar, frere, fraternal…

 

[PaulDupre]

GilKobrin:

I thank both of you!

I find monastic orders to be very interesting, conceptually speaking.

I see it now - friar, frere, fraternal…

Ah, a man of letters! Doubly welcome!
Paul

 

[StJeanneDArc]

wabrams:

I’ve learned that just like there are Fundaminalists Protestants, the same goes for Catholics.

You know, my Catholic sister-in-law used that same terminology: “fundamentalist Catholic”. I asked her to define it for me and she couldn’t. Perhaps you could.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

StJeanneDArc:

You know, my Catholic sister-in-law used that same terminology: “fundamentalist Catholic”. I asked her to define it for me and she couldn’t. Perhaps you could.

This is just a guess, but,I think the term is used for those who actually try to live their faith and listen to what the Church teaches,and doesn’t pick and choose what they will adhere to. God Bless

 

[StJeanneDArc]

Lisa4Catholics:

This is just a guess, but,I think the term is used for those who actually try to live their faith and listen to what the Church teaches,and doesn’t pick and choose what they will adhere to. God Bless

Lisa, I agree with you. “Fundamentalist Catholic” has a disparaging undertone, and I think my sister-in-law was using it that way. What I was hoping is to get a definition from someone who actually uses that term.

I personally don’t think there is any such thing as a “fundamentalist Catholic”. There are orthodox Catholics and dissenting Catholics. It’s usually the dissenting Catholics who use the disparaging term for the orthodox Catholics.

For all of you non-Catholics out there–did you pick up on the distinction?

 

[AnAtheist]

StJeanneDArc:

I personally don’t think there is any such thing as a “fundamentalist Catholic”. There are orthodox Catholics and dissenting Catholics. It’s usually the dissenting Catholics who use the disparaging term for the orthodox Catholics.

For all of you non-Catholics out there–did you pick up on the distinction?

I agree with you, the catholic faith is a very well defined system, so the term fundametalist makes little sense. You either are Catholic or you’re not. Perhaps it fits for those who reject Vatican II…

It is a different thing with protestants, they come in so many colours, that the term fundamentalist fits very well for some of them. And when I hear “christian fundamentalist”, I think of a bible thumping fanatic, you know - the Jack T. Chick type.

 

[RBushlow]

AnAtheist:

I agree with you, the catholic faith is a very well defined system, so the term fundametalist makes little sense. You either are Catholic or you’re not. Perhaps it fits for those who reject Vatican II…

It is a different thing with protestants, they come in so many colours, that the term fundamentalist fits very well for some of them. And when I hear “christian fundamentalist”, I think of a bible thumping fanatic, you know - the Jack T. Chick type.

Or you could say the opposite is a cafeteria catholic.