Non-Catholics: Was Luther led by the Spirit?

[Nicene]

The inspired scriptures. When tradition is mentioned, it is past tense, referring to a time which clearly seems to be 30 AD to no later than 60 AD at the very latest. You guys want me to believe that Christ and the apostles taught on the things you say they did but I have only asked for proof. If you were a Protestant, you would as well. I know the Holy Bible is the word of God. I cannot accept any of your traditons without good evidence that they were faithfully passed for 2000 years.

Fredricks. I’ve seen you adamantly defending Sola Scriptura, then say Scripture and tradition. They pretty much are mutually exclusive. Which do you believe?

I disagree with your presupposition. I have posted on here about Sola Scripture before. I used the Bible and some early church fathers.

Yes you have stated so, it was either in the foundations thread or the Peters successor thread. If you use the bible and “some” early church fathers (why only some?) that’s not Sola Scriptura but Scripture and Tradition in addition to the traditions of your church particular.

Truthfully Sola Scriptura isn’t viable for one very important reason; The moment one starts a church it immediatly begins a tradition, and tthe bible will be read through the prism of that tradition. True Sola Scriptura doesn’t and cannot exist. The personal interpretation is the beginning of that tradition.

Example OSAS isn’t biblical, however every evangelical church will interpret the bible through the prism of that tradition which has been taught to them. OSAS is the Tradition, the church interprets the bible through this prism and tells the congregation what it means. Tradition plus Scripture interpreted by authority of the church particular. And this is only one of the traditions, there are differing traditions for each church particular within the protestant envelope, as many as there are churches.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene

 

[Fredricks]

Nicene:

As a sola scripturist I am surprised to see you argue against scripture when it is right there in scripture and comes directly from it. I am surprised to see you say the bishops weren’t in charge when that’s exactly what they were according to scripture.

(Self edited for charity)

Peace and God Bless
nicene

preacherstudy.com/pdf/leaders.pdf

 

[Thal59]

Fredricks:

preacherstudy.com/pdf/leaders.pdf

Nice resource; if one likes idiotic dribble.

I began to write a rebuttal, but I have just erased it and am now typing these words. Within two paragraphes of that man cutting and pasting biblical verses out of context and jumping like a hurdler to false conclusions, the source you have offered is a beautiful example of why sola scriptura is a disaster.

But I will keep the portion I read. It will come in handy towards refuting the sheer nonsense of sola scriptura later.

Thal59