Non-Catholics: Why are you here?

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samiam1611 said:
I don’t like how the Church tells people how to act and that if they don’t follow the rules, they are offending God and might even go to Hell. Even when one’s conscience says it’s okay to do something, the Church basically says nope you’re wrong. I don’t understand why the Church is so bossy, and I even more can’t understand why people let Her boss them around.
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The Church is the pillar of truth, not our consciences. This truth does not change, but stands firm amongst the ever degrading morals of modern society. The Church may exercise her authority, but I don’t take it as being bossy. The Church’s job is to get me to Heaven, and I appreciate the effort, even if it could occassionally come in the form of tough love.

Like children, most grown-ups don’t like being told what to do, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not what is best for us. The Apostles “laid down the law” when they had to. Their successors do the same.
 
Fair comment JC, but I’ll bet like me some of the posts have had you laughing fit to bust ( hey! thats me being Ameriiicann) and hoping that non cathoilics dont tar us all with the same brush
 
Many come here because they see Catholic theology as a “hanging curve ball” and as such they can hit the ball out of the park. I have seen these types seriously and stunningly discouraged and confused by Catholic apologists and even untrained posters who know their stuff. Satisfying to watch even though I am not skilled enough in most cases to dazzle anyone.😉
 
People defend their beliefs…I never sratch my head over that but I am puzzled by those on “their side” who continue to repeat (and believe) false assumptions about Catholic theology when all one would need to do is do a little reading. " Why do Catholics worship Mary?"…"why do Catholics call their priests father? This kind of stuff is so basic but some never get the picture.🤷
 
Lucky10279 said:
Just because the church has rules doesn’t mean they are trying to be bossy.
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Bossy is not quite the right word but that’s all I could come up with at the moment. And this moment too lol. Obviously people don’t HAVE to do what the Church tells them to do… but Her teachings on mortal sins, confession, heaven, hell, salvation, and the importance of obeying/assenting is sort of like…pressuring them into submission. You know like “if you do this you could go to hell.” (to oversimplify it.)
If you don’t mind saying, what rules do not want to folow?
Mikayla
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Birth control is the main one. There are others. Mostly related issues - abortion, sterilization, non-intercourse sexual acts, that sort of thing. (BTW, I have not had an abortion but I am just glad I have the option.) I could probably think of more, but birth control is the teaching I am most familiar with and can have an in depth discussion about without putting my foot in mouth.
 
pismopal said:
People defend their beliefs…I never sratch my head over that but I am puzzled by those on “their side” who continue to repeat (and believe) false assumptions about Catholic theology when all one would need to do is do a little reading. " Why do Catholics worship Mary?"…"why do Catholics call their priests father? This kind of stuff is so basic but some never get the picture.🤷
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There are of course plenty of misapprehensions and sweeping statements about “Protestantism” around, not least in this forum.
 
pismopal said:
People defend their beliefs…I never sratch my head over that but I am puzzled by those on “their side” who continue to repeat (and believe) false assumptions about Catholic theology when all one would need to do is do a little reading. " Why do Catholics worship Mary?"…"why do Catholics call their priests father? This kind of stuff is so basic but some never get the picture.🤷
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Yes, there are those who continue to repeat acusations they know to be false, because it serves their purpose of slander. Tear the other party down to build yourself up. They are not guided by the Spirit
 
samiam1611 said:
Short version: too strict.

Extended version: I don’t like how the Church tells people how to act and that if they don’t follow the rules, they are offending God and might even go to Hell. Even when one’s conscience says it’s okay to do something, the Church basically says nope you’re wrong. I don’t understand why the Church is so bossy, and I even more can’t understand why people let Her boss them around.
:hmmm:
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A life-long practicing Catholic, I think I understand your point. Regarding matters of Church doctrine and liturgy, I would think that any pastor or denomination would reserve the right to direct its flock. But as Catholics have become less “ghetto” and more mainstream in the last 3 or 4 decades, some Church officials have become more aggressive in trying to make Church doctrine our civil law. In that regard, your final question is a good one. Thanks to the separation of Church and State, my Church does not speak for me on public matters, nor would I presume to speak for it. Within the Church, however, I participate in the sacramental system and the communion of saints. So for me, it’s a happy balance.
 
I started coming to this sight to get answers. I grew up Non-Denominational. My husband came back to the Church last year. I held off as long as possible. You could say I was blind sided by all the truths of the Catholic Church. :eek: I wasn’t expecting them to be right. Now I’m a Neophyte. I can’t wait until my First Communion. 😃
 
In some ways I can say, I fell out of the Mormon church, because of problems, and they did say that if the First Vision was not true, then might as well join the Catholic Church, so I did attend catholic churches for years.

I did join this forum several years ago. From this Board I learned of the Mormon Forums, now called “mormon apologetics and discussion board”, then from there, learned of the “New Order Mormon” board, and found some of them became Catholic, but because of family I choose not to resign from LDS, so I am a member of that NOM board for support.

So many things I like about Catholic, is their knowledge of why we Humans go through suffering. I learned of this CAF board on EWTN Radio, on the Catholic Answers Radio show, from back in 1997.

Due to having Chronic Fatigue for many years, I kind of just dropped out of church going. Has not been easy.
 
mathematoons said:
I’ve noticed that there are a lot of non-Catholics here, and many of them seem to just want to argue with Church teachings. I can’t help but think they’re here to convert us.

However, I know that not all the non-Catholics are like that–I just can’t figure out why else they spend their time on a Catholic message board. So I thought I’d ask.

What brings you, as a non-Catholic, to Catholic Answers Forums?
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To learn why Catholics voted for Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi for all those years of course.

… LOL!
 
Usbek_de_Perse said:
I am at least open to becoming an Anglican-Use Catholic. I have a long way to go, but I am interested.

Also, frankly, I have much more in common with Catholics than most Protestants, be they “main stream” or “evangelical”.

Catholics are usually more tolerant and they value reason.
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+1! That’s it, exactly. I’m in the early stages of my development, and need a forum which will help me understand what I do, and do not, believe. I can think of no better place in which I can do that than Catholic Answers! If it didn’t exist, I’d have to invent it!😃
 
I disagree, most are here for questions, but can get emotional or upset when some Catholic threads challenge protestant teachings. Don’t we all get defensive when our faith is challenged?

There are sometimes fundamentalists however, who occasionally join the forums and have their opening question as just ‘Why do Catholics worship idols’ or something along those lines.

God Bless,

PiousTemplar.
 
I am here to learn. My first post was rejected, lets see if this one is also.
Someone mentioned emotion, I have read some of the forums on this site
and I read a lot of emotion displayed.

Your Brother in Christ
 
samiam1611 said:
Bossy is not quite the right word but that’s all I could come up with at the moment. And this moment too lol. Obviously people don’t HAVE to do what the Church tells them to do… but Her teachings on mortal sins, confession, heaven, hell, salvation, and the importance of obeying/assenting is sort of like…pressuring them into submission. You know like “if you do this you could go to hell.” (to oversimplify it.)

Birth control is the main one. There are others. Mostly related issues - abortion, sterilization, non-intercourse sexual acts, that sort of thing. (BTW, I have not had an abortion but I am just glad I have the option.) I could probably think of more, but birth control is the teaching I am most familiar with and can have an in depth discussion about without putting my foot in mouth.
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Why do you not agree with the church’s teaching on these things? I don’t see how anyone could think abortion is OK.
 
Lucky10279 said:
Why do you not agree with the church’s teaching on these things? I don’t see how anyone could think abortion is OK.
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I’m afraid I might derail the thread a bit by elaborating very much. To give you a very brief answer: I do not believe in souls; a zygote and an embryo are just a bunch of cells to me. It’s not a person. It has the potential to be one, but I do not see potential as equivalent to actual. Now, sucking the brains and stuff out of a woman who is having a purely elective abortion late in her pregnancy, that I have a problem with. But as long as she is not terribly far along (i.e. a medical abortion will do the trick) I just do not see that as murder. I would not have a problem taking a pill to flush some cells out of my body.

I do think there is a point that it becomes immoral unless done to save the pregnant woman’s life.

As for the other Church teachings I disagree with - look at the reasons the Church gives, then take out any sentence that mentions God. You will not be left with many reasons.
Understand that I am certainly not saying everything the Church teaches is bogus. I more have a problem with how black and white She makes things. Life is complex, circumstances can and often do matter (IMO) when determining if something is right or wrong. Sometimes a lesser evil should be preferred to a greater one bc that is just how life is.

P.S. I feel like this post kind of sucks, it’s not my best work so to speak lol. I didn’t want to get way off topic of the OP so I did not express my opinions as fully as I would have liked. Hopefully you can take that into consideration if you choose to critique my post :o
 
How do you know a zygotye and an embryo are just a bunch of cells? Have you ever been a zygote or an embryo and lived to tell about it?
 
Michael19682 said:
How do you know a zygotye and an embryo are just a bunch of cells? Have you ever been a zygote or an embryo and lived to tell about it?
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I have! (technically, we’ve all been embryos, have we not?) 😉

Being serious though, the major objection to abortion is that it seriously violates the sanctity of life. What God gives is only God’s to take.
 
I’ve noticed that there are a lot of non-Catholics here, and many of them seem to just want to argue with Church teachings. I can’t help but think they’re here to convert us.
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However, I know that not all the non-Catholics are like that–I just can’t figure out why else they spend their time on a Catholic message board. So I thought I’d ask.
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What brings you, as a non-Catholic, to Catholic Answers Forums?
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**1. Ok. Lets say we argue the Church teaching 'coz we don’t believe in Church teaching. But, as for me I’m not here to litter garbage.
  1. I don’t of other’s intention but as for me. I’m here to share knowledge and seek more knowledge wit u all.
  2. There is nothing wrong in hanging in a place like this buddy.** 🙂
 
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