Non Christian religions entering heaven

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There is just one little problem: How about people who never heard of Jesus Chirst? And what about all of the people who were born and died before His Birth, Death, and Reserection? Or those who were alive at that time but lived in other places (ie China, the Amarecas), when He walked the Earth?
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As I said above, I think they would go to a place of perfect natural happiness. And I agree with the above poster - it’s almost impossible these days to not be familiar with Christ. Not that there are people out there who haven’t, but I would say they are few and far between. Their fate is between them and God.
 
Just because some animals live in caves, or so far below the ocean’s surface that they never see the sun, doesn’t mean the sun does not exist, nor that life on earth is not dependent on the sun for it’s existence.

And those animals that live in the sun rejoice in it (allegorically speaking!)
Yes, but those living in darkness never get to see the sun. Even if their lives, in a roundabout way, depend on it, they will not be exposed to the light unless they are brought out of the darkness.
 
As I said above, I think they would go to a place of perfect natural happiness. And I agree with the above poster - it’s almost impossible these days to not be familiar with Christ. Not that there are people out there who haven’t, but I would say they are few and far between. Their fate is between them and God.
So they go to ‘limbo’? Is that, in your opinion, where David (a man after God’s Own Heart) is now, and not in Heavan? How about Moses (the Lawgiver)? Both of them did not hear about Jesus. My point being that is that there is only one of two places they canbe: Heaven or Hell. The same as the rest of us. 👍

By using the term ‘limbo’, I’m showing my age!
 
Here’s what I’ve heard a priest say before…

Only “catholics” will be in Heaven, and most “Catholics” will not be in heaven. I think what he meant by this is that the “catholics” that are in Heaven include everyone (Catholic and Christians and non-Christians who have not “professed” Catholicism. If they live their lives in accord with the Catholic Church which holds the fullness of the truth, then they can enter into Heaven.
 
So they go to ‘limbo’? Is that, in your opinion, where David (a man after God’s Own Heart) is now, and not in Heavan? How about Moses (the Lawgiver)? Both of them did not hear about Jesus. My point being that is that there is only one of two places they canbe: Heaven or Hell. The same as the rest of us. 👍

By using the term ‘limbo’, I’m showing my age!
I believe the righteous Jews went to heaven for their hope of a Savior to come.
 
So they go to ‘limbo’? Is that, in your opinion, where David (a man after God’s Own Heart) is now, and not in Heavan? How about Moses (the Lawgiver)? Both of them did not hear about Jesus. My point being that is that there is only one of two places they canbe: Heaven or Hell. The same as the rest of us. 👍

By using the term ‘limbo’, I’m showing my age!
That’s not a very good comparison since Christ descended into hell to free those waiting in limbo, or the theological term ‘Abraham’s Bosom.’ They were children of the Old Covenant and their sins were forgiven by the sacrifice at the Temple. they were thus washed by the Precious Blood in retroaction since they participated in the Covenant.

It is doctrine that Abraham’s Bosom existed, the speculation is whether it still does and if it is a permanent for those not washed by the waters of Baptism and the Blood but lived according to natural law.
 
“Natural Law” is the clincher. God sent Christ to us because we have original sin, and because of that, it is impossible for any person to be perfect and behave perfectly. Thus I would say that it one lived mostly within natural law, they would go to a place that is not hell, but not heaven with God either. Especially if they had the offer of Christ’s redemption and rejected it. Their circumstances in that place would be dependent on their alignment with the law. Whether or not that is Abraham’s Bosom I cannot know, and whether its pleasantness or unpleasantness is akin to that of heaven or hell I cannot know either. I can only show one’s best option.

One ought to at least have good hope for the eternal salvation of all those who in no way dwell in the true Church of Christ. - Encyclical Quanto conficiamur moerore, August 10, 1863, etc." This was in the Syllabus of Errors. I think the relatively recent idea that everybody’s chances are equal is a response to that sort of liberal theology that says all people are basically good, and all religions basically the same. The idea of the negative judgement of God is uncomfortable to us, so we try to soften it.

“God wills the salvation of everyone through the knowledge of the truth. Salvation is found in the truth. Those who obey the prompting of the Spirit of truth are already on the way of salvation. But the Church, to whom this truth has been entrusted, must go out to meet their desire, so as to bring them the truth. Because she believes in God’s universal plan of salvation, the Church must be missionary.” They are on their way to salvation, but not yet there.

those who do not belong to the visible Body of the Catholic Church… We ask each and every one of them to correspond to the interior movements of grace, and to seek to withdraw from that state in which they cannot be secure about their salvation.[Cf. Pius IX, Iam Vos Omnes, 13 Sept. 1868] For even though by an unconscious desire and longing have a certain relationship with the Mystical Body of the Redeemer, they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church.

I am not a Roman Catholic, at least not yet. I believe in the “catholic” church, so long as it is orthodox and preaches the True Word of God. But I do agree that even if unbelievers do not go to hell, they will not experience the full joy of heaven. Whether or not they will be aware of this in the afterlife I cannot say.

The only thing we can be assured of is that if we die in God’s Grace, we will be saved. And that does mean we will have to engage in evangelization. We cannot merely put unbelievers on the back and say, “That’s all right, I wish you the best of luck.”
 
What is the catholic position on the non Christian soul at death? Millions of Bhudists, Jews, Muslims etc. may never accept the truth of the gospel. Are you responsible for what you were never exposed to? It doesn’t seem as though God would not have mercy on those souls. Some American Indian lived his life never knowing of Jesus as well as other tribal people. This topic has come up many, many times before but I think it is always worth taking a look at.
I am glad you brought up the American Indians. If you have the time please listen to these two homilies about the amazing conversion of the Flat Head Indians to Catholicism and how God still loved them before they even knew about the Catholic Church

The Flathead Indians I
The Flathead Indians 2

I believe listening to these homilies will give you a good idea about what God expects from all people and the hope and trust we should have in him.
 
This should be in the apologetics section or at least in the NC forum.
 
To me the Catholic position sounds a lot like the Islamic one.

According to th Quran, in order to go to paradise, one must accept Muhammad as the last and greatest of prophets, believe in the last judgement, believe in only one God, and give to charity.

And yet Islam is much more than that. Few Muslims would agree that a person who eats pork and engages in fornication would be a candidate for heaven, at least not without some hard-core repentance. And, it makes the assumption that even a person who does not call himself a Muslim would consider Muhammad the seal of the prophets.

So the church in question says one must die in sanctifying grace. However, even though the means of obtaining that grace are within that church and only within that church, through some mystifying means not found listed in the Bible, a person can be a member of that church without realizing it. It’s hard to defend outside of merely repeating that it’s in the catechism.

I’m not saying I know a person’s fate, but I do know what God’s Word says, and that Word compels me to say that we should not take chances with the souls of the world and assure either them or ourselves that whatever happens, they’ll be okay. The church says its members must still evangelize, but think about it: wouldn’t it be better just to leave them ignorant of God and Christ, so they can rest comfortably in ignorance? The Protestant view is that we don’t know an unbeliever’s destiny, but according to the evidence, it is not good, and it is not helpful to waste time wondering about what the exact logistics of their salvation would be, assuming it exists. To me it seems the Catholic view is that even if a person rejects the Gospel because they believe it to be false, their chances are still good, since it could be assumed, after all, that they may not have known any better.
 
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