Non Christian's alleged NDE experience

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Hello everyone! I want your opinion on this. I have a friend, who is unfortunately not a Christian. In fact, she dabbles in the occult, casts spells, and is leading a deeply sinful life. I pray for her salvation.

She just recently got over this awful flu that’s going around, and was close to death. She CLAIMS she had an NDE, and details how wonderful and beautiful it was on the other side.

My question: how is this possible? Is she lying, is she deceived, or what?
 
nimbus123 said:
Hello everyone! I want your opinion on this. I have a friend, who is unfortunately not a Christian. In fact, she dabbles in the occult, casts spells, and is leading a deeply sinful life. I pray for her salvation.

She just recently got over this awful flu that’s going around, and was close to death. She CLAIMS she had an NDE, and details how wonderful and beautiful it was on the other side.

My question: how is this possible? Is she lying, is she deceived, or what?
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Did it totaly change her life for the better??? Is she now seeking to Know & Love God?? God Bless Memaw
 
nimbus123 said:
Hello everyone! I want your opinion on this. I have a friend, who is unfortunately not a Christian. In fact, she dabbles in the occult, casts spells, and is leading a deeply sinful life. I pray for her salvation.

She just recently got over this awful flu that’s going around, and was close to death. She CLAIMS she had an NDE, and details how wonderful and beautiful it was on the other side.

My question: how is this possible? Is she lying, is she deceived, or what?
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I think we’d need to know more about happened to your friend ‘on the other side.’ Was she told anything or was anything revealed to her that you know of? We’d need to be able to compare her experiences with what scripture has revealed and with what the church teaches.

Has this experience affected her in any way and influenced her to move away from the occult?

We can never really know for sure, but NDE for many people, really changes their lives.
 
nimbus123 said:
Hello everyone! I want your opinion on this. I have a friend, who is unfortunately not a Christian. In fact, she dabbles in the occult, casts spells, and is leading a deeply sinful life. I pray for her salvation.

She just recently got over this awful flu that’s going around, and was close to death. She CLAIMS she had an NDE, and details how wonderful and beautiful it was on the other side.

My question: how is this possible? Is she lying, is she deceived, or what?
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Without knowing more about her, it’s hard to say. I suppose my basic cynicism is due to the fact my father appeared in my room the night he died, and I still remember the hideous scream just before he disappeared again. That wasn’t an NDE though - he was dead, and stayed dead. His body wasn’t found for four days as it turned out, but he turned up in my room on the night he died.

So when I read that they’ve all had these super duper NDE’s, regardless of their spiritual and moral standing, I get a bit cynical.

There’s some ghost stories on this nursing site, and on the first page alone there’s a few stories that indicate some people are not going to have a happy ending. If anyone is going to be dealing with the dying, it would be nurses, especially in aged care homes.

allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/whats-your-best-108202-page2.html
 
Maybe it is a good thing but if your friend is in mortal sin she will end up in Hell. However that is not for me to judge if she is in mortal sin or not
 
nimbus123 said:
Hello everyone! I want your opinion on this. I have a friend, who is unfortunately not a Christian. In fact, she dabbles in the occult, casts spells, and is leading a deeply sinful life. I pray for her salvation.

She just recently got over this awful flu that’s going around, and was close to death. She CLAIMS she had an NDE, and details how wonderful and beautiful it was on the other side.

My question: how is this possible? Is she lying, is she deceived, or what?
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Would you clarify the bolded, please?
 
I cannot judge the claims of your friend… but it has my wondering…

If someone was close to death and was not destined for heaven… is it possible for evil, knowing that the person won’t die just yet, to create a vision of a wonderful afterlife to that person in order to keep that person on the path that they are on currently? To further keep that person from God?
 
Of you start meaning with occult stuff it isn’t uncommon for demons to start becoming more active and they are very good at creating illusions. The devil can take on the appearance of Jesus and Mary if he needs to.
 
nimbus123 said:
Hello everyone! I want your opinion on this. I have a friend, who is unfortunately not a Christian. In fact, she dabbles in the occult, casts spells, and is leading a deeply sinful life. I pray for her salvation.

She just recently got over this awful flu that’s going around, and was close to death. She CLAIMS she had an NDE, and details how wonderful and beautiful it was on the other side.

My question: how is this possible? Is she lying, is she deceived, or what?
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I have read lots and lots of NDE stories and one thing that strikes me is that if people are able to come back, then they were not all the way in Heaven, but at the gateway. That is close enough to feel the love of God, and the other things they describe. So, yeah, I can see where your friend could experience wonderful things that close to Heaven, but by no means does being at the gate mean that one is allowed in past the gate. Now a lot of NDE people report experiencing their life flashing before them and how all their interactions with others effected other people, and they are given wisdom to change their lives. Maybe there is something she is not telling you. Has any of her behavior changed?
 
nimbus123 said:
Hello everyone! I want your opinion on this. I have a friend, who is unfortunately not a Christian. In fact, she dabbles in the occult, casts spells, and is leading a deeply sinful life. I pray for her salvation.

She just recently got over this awful flu that’s going around, and was close to death. She CLAIMS she had an NDE, and details how wonderful and beautiful it was on the other side.

My question: how is this possible? Is she lying, is she deceived, or what?
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Maybe not. I remember my aunt telling me a story about a friend who had an NDE. Prior to this experience he was an angry and bitter man. During his NDE he came to know an all encompassing love he never knew existed. This experience started him on the journey from atheism to the Church. He was a changed man after this NDE not through threat of hell but through knowing the existence of divine love. Love, not fear was what got him to change.
 
nimbus123 said:
Hello everyone! I want your opinion on this. I have a friend, who is unfortunately not a Christian. In fact, she dabbles in the occult, casts spells, and is leading a deeply sinful life. I pray for her salvation.

She just recently got over this awful flu that’s going around, and was close to death. She CLAIMS she had an NDE, and details how wonderful and beautiful it was on the other side.

My question: how is this possible? Is she lying, is she deceived, or what?
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Hmm, maybe this is your prayer being answered. A seed may have been planted unbeknownst to you or her. It may start small and unnoticed at first but keep on praying that it may grow and bear fruit.
 
Thank you everyone. She claims to have had a type of Eastern Religion “death of the ego”, being “subsumed into the void” kind of experience, with multiple previous reincarnation memories. She continues in her beliefs, which include New Age and worship of Egyptian “gods”.

She’s a sweet lady, a dear friend, and I am confused that she did not have a more truthful NDE.
 
I don’t believe in this NDE stuff.

If you died and felt Heaven then coming back to earth must feel like being in Hell.

If they all came back after their NDEs and all became Catholics then maybe but some say that God told them just be good to each other and religion is man-made etc.

Remember that being near death and coming back is not the same as being near death and dying, the person may not know the difference but God does, He wouldn’t pull you towards heaven and then send you back. Other NDE people say they chose to come back instead of staying in Heaven.

I do remember my Nan however before she died, the last week or so when she was getting weak telling us about a black man (not African black, maybe a devil or someone wearing black) holding a drink but refusing to give it to her and she said she was so thirsty. Sounded scary to me, she spent most of her life angry with God and I wish I knew about the Divine Mercy chaplet back then as I was there when she was dying in hospital.
 
It could be that the courtyard outside the gates of Heaven is a very beautiful place, but not a place where anyone gets to stay.

It could be that God gave her a glimpse of Heaven as an incentive to change.

There are lots of possibilities. Not everyone grasps the significance of their NDEs.
 
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Thank you everyone. She claims to have had a type of Eastern Religion “death of the ego”, being “subsumed into the void” kind of experience, with multiple previous reincarnation memories. She continues in her beliefs, which include New Age and worship of Egyptian “gods”.

She’s a sweet lady, a dear friend, and I am confused that she did not have a more truthful NDE.
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I don’t believe GOD would grant us a genuine NDE about multiple reincarnations and guide us into other false beliefs. HE is TRUTH and only TRUTH. God Bless, Memaw
 
Nelka said:
I don’t believe in this NDE stuff.

If you died and felt Heaven then coming back to earth must feel like being in Hell.

If they all came back after their NDEs and all became Catholics then maybe but some say that God told them just be good to each other and religion is man-made etc.

Remember that being near death and coming back is not the same as being near death and dying, the person may not know the difference but God does, He wouldn’t pull you towards heaven and then send you back. Other NDE people say they chose to come back instead of staying in Heaven.

I do remember my Nan however before she died, the last week or so when she was getting weak telling us about a black man (not African black, maybe a devil or someone wearing black) holding a drink but refusing to give it to her and she said she was so thirsty. Sounded scary to me, she spent most of her life angry with God and I wish I knew about the Divine Mercy chaplet back then as I was there when she was dying in hospital.
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You can still say it for her. I went to a class years ago givin by a very Holy Priest and he said we can still pray for our ancesters as there is no time in Heaven. Everything is “Present” to God already. So the prayers we say today are always “Present” to God and He can apply them even way back then. I have a prayer I say after Communion and it says about the same thing.

“Oh, my God the Father, I offer to Thee this Mass and this Holy Communion which I have just received,
And I unite this offering with all the Masses offered and all the Holy Communions received this day and every day from the dawn of the Christian era, till the end of time…”

This prayer card is from the 1940’s and it was put out by Radio Replies. I have distributed hundreds of them in my travels to Churches. I love it. God Bless, Memaw
 
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