Nontrads in the sspx

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filius_Immacula said:
So…um…are there nontrads in the sspx?
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That depends what you mean by a ‘nontrad’. There are people who attend Novus Ordo parishes who also regularly attend an SSPX chapel. Are they ‘nontrads’.

As for being in the SSPX, the only people actually* in* the SSPX are the SSPX clergy. The laity who attend are simply Catholics who choose to go to Mass there. The SSPX is a priestly fraternity and is not open to lay-membership.
 
Brendan_64 said:
That depends what you mean by a ‘nontrad’. There are people who attend Novus Ordo parishes who also regularly attend an SSPX chapel. Are they ‘nontrads’.

As for being in the SSPX, the only people actually* in* the SSPX are the SSPX clergy. The laity who attend are simply Catholics who choose to go to Mass there. The SSPX is a priestly fraternity and is not open to lay-membership.
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Semantics, I know its a priestly fraternity, and I defined it in the OP
 
From ProVobis:
“I wonder, though, given that 75% of Catholics (more like 95% of those younger than 30) don’t attend Mass, at least not regularly, it seems as if perhaps we’re focusing too much time trying to pry the minuscule number of the faithful (we presume they are) from the chapels they now have grown up in”.
From Commenter: Yes, I am more worried about the vast numbers of liberals, including half my relatives, who are secularized by the media, than I am about the much fewer in SSPX, who at least have the courage of their convictions (but not prudence, IMHO).
Brendan_64 said:
In Novus Ordo parishes I have met Catholics who support gay marriage, female ordination, contraception and more. They openly criticise Church teaching on these matters (and sadly they too have the support of some clergy). Are they too not guilty of ‘walking away’? I would suggest that this problem is substantially larger than the problem at the other end of the spectrum.
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I agree, that the liberals in far greater numbers seem to present a greater problem than SSPX. I have spent about 40 years trying to counter the damage they have done to the Church, in my role as a layman. But for the individual, taking the uncommon exit door from engagement with the living Magisterium is just as damaging as taking the more commonly used exit. It’s the individual, or rather the family, I am trying to focus on here. So many posts focus on “Family Doctrinal Issues” as such, and so few look at impact on particular families of church members who may or may not connect with SSPX.
 
filius_Immacula said:
So…um…are there nontrads in the sspx?
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I am positive that there has to be.

The SSPX movement has been around since the early 1970’s, a lot of people have grown up in the movement. To think that everyone there is on the same page isn’t credible.

Too much time has passed, it isn’t like Archbishop Lefebvre started the movement last week, or last year, or even in this millennium. Generations have literally passed.
 
Some very good comments. I have been to many SSPX Masses and know many SSPX’ers 🙂 For the last 4 years I have been attending the FSSP at our own church (thanks to our Archbishop).

Like any organization that takes a firm stand on an issue/s, they can attract folks on the fringes. Same way with the OF Masses.

I have been amazed that no one mentioned the really fringe groups like CMRI and SSPV.

Yes, I know lots of folks that “switch-hit” between forms of the Mass. I think its mostly curiosity or convenience.

At the SSPX Masses I’ve attended, there has been absolutely no words against Rome. In fact the Holy Father is included in the prayers.

Today I went with friends to my old OF parish. At 10:00 am we rang all the church bells to celebrate the 177th anniversary of the first Mass said on the prairie. Then this Friday I’ll go back to my FSSP parish 80 miles away.

God Bless
 
filius_Immacula said:
Are there any non-traditionalist, or soft traditionalists, that go to sspx. By this i mean people who accept Vatican 2 and Vatican 2 concepts, like ecumenism and religious freedom and the like, that just prefer the traditional sacraments and community. Laity or clergy.
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In answer to your question, when I attended mass at the SSPX chapel it was full of a variety of people. It was the only TLM mass within hundreds of miles. Anyone is welcome to attend ( I wasn’t even Catholic back then) but you are encouraged to dress modestly and they offer head coverings to women. I brought my own though. The congregation wasn’t any different than the FSSP masses I also attended in another state. Both had solid homilies by their priests and touched on important moral issues. I attended the SSPX one for months.
 
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