Not enough non catholic here

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I’ve enjoyed my time here, and I would consider CAF part of my faith formation.



I will however point out that the rumors of Lutheans eating Catholic children for breakfast are unfouned. Childen are much to valuable to be used as a snack, so we put them to work in the gold mines.
Never saw any problems with Lutherans here on CAF. Couple years ago there was a guy CLAIMING to be Lutheran, which I had doubts about when it came to his posts. He sounded more like a fundie who had been here before. Eric made him disappear.
 
Is it just my imagination that there are very few non Catholics on this forum? I would have thought that this place would be full of non catholic Christians telling us where we have gone wrong. But no, there are very few.

My supposition is that Protestants (with a few exceptions) don’t hang around here because they cannot debate knowledgeable Catholics.
I don’t agree with the last paragraph. Those Protestants who hang around long here are pretty knowledgeable and they know exactly who they are. If they agree or disagree with Catholics is not because they were browbeat to it but because of their confidence in their own understanding of the subject. One has to give them credit there.

Yes, there may be Protestants who could not match the truth of Catholicism and I suspect these to be more belligerent and partisan. Those in this category do not stay long enough and some ran foul with the moderators with the Forum’s rule but so did some Catholics too, so did some Catholics.
 
I’ve enjoyed my time here, and I would consider CAF part of my faith formation.



I will however point out that the rumors of Lutheans eating Catholic children for breakfast are unfouned. Childen are much to valuable to be used as a snack, so we put them to work in the gold mines.
Maybe. But with barbeque sauce… 😃

Jon
 
Non Catholic here!

I come to CAF every day. I enjoy the conversations, the people, the atmosphere.
Growing up in a predominately protestant county/area, I knew very little of what ‘the other side’ believed. 🙂

I’ve learned a lot here, and while I don’t agree with everything Catholics believe, I have no real desire to debate anyone. I know what I belive and why, and can respect that others do, too.

I think there may be more protestants that lurk here than people think. It’s my MO, most of the time, lol. :cool:
 
Is it just my imagination that there are very few non Catholics on this forum? I would have thought that this place would be full of non catholic Christians telling us where we have gone wrong. But no, there are very few.
I must say that I am most curious about the quantifier in your thread title: were you wanting there to be more anti-Catholics?
 
I, for one, have left this forum many times because of a number of less-than-charitable posts from Catholics. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Roman friends, but it gets old to see “They don’t have valid apostolic succession” posted by 34 different people on the first page of a thread.
 
I, for one, have left this forum many times because of a number of less-than-charitable posts from Catholics. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Roman friends, but it gets old to see “They don’t have valid apostolic succession” posted by 34 different people on the first page of a thread.
I would have said that. In fact I did earlier on a few years back. Why? because that is the truth of what we consider the truth. Long time Protestant posters here seem to accept this Catholic’s stand as much as we accept their stand in disagreeing on the supremacy of the Bishop of Rome.

But uncharitable posts is another thing altogether and one can easily pick those up. Truth said with sincerity does not offend as much as when it is said in an uncharitable tone and disposition.
 
I would have said that. In fact I did earlier on a few years back. Why? because that is the truth of what we consider the truth. Long time Protestant posters here seem to accept this Catholic’s stand as much as we accept their stand in disagreeing on the supremacy of the Bishop of Rome.

But uncharitable posts is another thing altogether and one can easily pick those up. Truth said with sincerity does not offend as much as when it is said in an uncharitable tone and disposition.
I seem to have struck a nerve… I apologize if you are offended by what I said. Perhaps I am not making myself clear. I do not fault anyone on this site for posting what they think, especially those who try to witness to a faith not of their own making. All I was trying to say is that it is tiring to see so many people post the same thing, often without really reading the OP’s question. For example, someone asks about Protestant views on the Holy Supper. Instead of addressing the topic, some people like to promote their position without dealing with the topic at hand. So, instead of saying something about what Catholics believe compared to Protestants (or vice-versa), the discussion goes to valid ordination. A worthy topic, to be sure, but not the topic at hand. Make sense?
 
Actually I would disagree, protestants are taught to avoid Catholics as much as they can, because “Catholics are evil”. The only time protestants really argue, is when you meet them up in the street, or attack their systems first. They do not really care much about about knowing Catholics or their culture, and will often refuse to join anything that is Catholic, even this forum.

Don’t cut my head off for this post, I’m speaking here based on my own experiences, and the ones of people I know. Of course, not all protestants are like that.
I here this a lot – that non-catholics are “taught to stay away from Catholics, or to dislike Catholics, yada yada”. Growing up, I went to just about every protestant denomination, and have NEVER been taught ANYTHING negative about the Catholic faith (the “harshest” thing is probably someone stating they don’t “get” a Mary statue) – where have all of you been hanging around that you meet protestants that have such disdain for the Catholic faith. growing up, we viewed it as just another Christian denomination. (Now that I am in RCIA, I feel it is the one true church, not “just” another denomination)
 
I, for one, have left this forum many times because of a number of less-than-charitable posts from Catholics. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Roman friends, but it gets old to see “They don’t have valid apostolic succession” posted by 34 different people on the first page of a thread.
I understand, but I find that it serves as a useful litmus test.

When I see someone gleefully proclaiming, “Your priests are just laypeople and your sacraments are empty rituals!!!”, I know that this is not a source of useful dialogue. When I see someone saying, “It is the understanding of the Catholic Church that you do not have valid apostolic succession”, I think that they might be a source of useful dialogue.
 
I here this a lot – that non-catholics are “taught to stay away from Catholics, or to dislike Catholics, yada yada”. Growing up, I went to just about every protestant denomination, and have NEVER been taught ANYTHING negative about the Catholic faith (the “harshest” thing is probably someone stating they don’t “get” a Mary statue) – where have all of you been hanging around that you meet protestants that have such disdain for the Catholic faith. growing up, we viewed it as just another Christian denomination. (Now that I am in RCIA, I feel it is the one true church, not “just” another denomination)
Mileage varies: I have heard all kinds of anti-Catholic things from Baptists, Presbyterians, Open Brethren, Methodists, Anglicans, and Pentecostals of various kinds.
 
I seem to have struck a nerve… I apologize if you are offended by what I said. Perhaps I am not making myself clear. I do not fault anyone on this site for posting what they think, especially those who try to witness to a faith not of their own making. All I was trying to say is that it is tiring to see so many people post the same thing, often without really reading the OP’s question. For example, someone asks about Protestant views on the Holy Supper. Instead of addressing the topic, some people like to promote their position without dealing with the topic at hand. So, instead of saying something about what Catholics believe compared to Protestants (or vice-versa), the discussion goes to valid ordination. A worthy topic, to be sure, but not the topic at hand. Make sense?
I can see that. No problem at all. It is frustrating to see people off topic especially when they use that to make a statement that attacks the other belief. It happen many times. The culprits are very often come from across the board and you are right. Not just in Catholics-Protestants threads but also in Islam-Christianity threads resulting in those threads being closed by the mods.
 
Well, we have a lot of dissenting/liberal Catholics here too so that’s basically the same thing. 🤷
 
I here this a lot – that non-catholics are “taught to stay away from Catholics, or to dislike Catholics, yada yada”. Growing up, I went to just about every protestant denomination, and have NEVER been taught ANYTHING negative about the Catholic faith (the “harshest” thing is probably someone stating they don’t “get” a Mary statue) – where have all of you been hanging around that you meet protestants that have such disdain for the Catholic faith. growing up, we viewed it as just another Christian denomination. (Now that I am in RCIA, I feel it is the one true church, not “just” another denomination)
I think it just depends on where you’re at. Growing up in a predominantly Southern Baptist area, I never heard anything negative about Catholics. But, now as an adult and visiting protestant forums and emailing with fundamentalists who have contacted me, I’ve been called “papist”, “Roman pharisee”, “not a Christian”, “Roman papist in the whore, drunk on the blood of the saints”…it just depends on where you go and who you talk to. :rolleyes:

But still, even for these guys you have to at least acknowledge their sincerity…they truly believe Catholics are going to hell and think that they are being helpful. Some of them will avoid posting for various reasons…but they lurk here nonetheless, looking for those they think they can help “save”.
 
I must say that I am most curious about the quantifier in your thread title: were you wanting there to be more anti-Catholics?
I expected there to be more because i see the number of evangelical groups decending on Catholic parts of the world (e.g. South America and saving the souls ) and so I thought that there would be more in this forum.
 
I expected there to be more because i see the number of evangelical groups decending on Catholic parts of the world (e.g. South America and saving the souls ) and so I thought that there would be more in this forum.
I love it when I hear Christians claim parts of the world for their own churches. It makes no sense to me. How is South America any more intrinsically Catholic than North America or Iran? And why should anyone respect some supposed territory of the Catholic Church? Would the Catholic Church extend the same courtesy to another church claiming religious ownership of a given place?
 
I love it when I hear Christians claim parts of the world for their own churches. It makes no sense to me. How is South America any more intrinsically Catholic than North America or Iran? And why should anyone respect some supposed territory of the Catholic Church? Would the Catholic Church extend the same courtesy to another church claiming religious ownership of a given place?
You make a very good point here…upon reflection this seems to be a leftover from the time of the reformation when nations, by virtue of their monarch’s faith, were either Catholic or protestant. Thus, the nations that make up South and Central America, by virtue of having been largely Spanish, are “Catholic nations”, North America, largely influence by England, was largely protestant (French Canada being an exception).

We as Catholics should recognize that some of these supposed “Catholic” parts of the world have large populations of what we call “Cultural Catholics”, or CINO’s (Catholic In Name Only). If such places were “staunchly Catholic”, others would find the pickings very slim indeed. Unfortunately this is not the case and is one of the reasons that the Holy Father, in his addresses for the “New Evangelization” and the “Year of Faith” etc emphasizes the need for work within the Church as well as outside of the Church.

That said, I think that the thing that disturbs the Catholic is how some of these groups believe Catholics are not “saved”…some don’t even believe that Catholics are Christians. Their view it that they are going to basically “pagan lands”…or that is how it sounds to us.
So when we hear of these groups going and getting Catholics “Saved” by drawing them away from the Catholic Church…It is not looked on too kindly.

Peace
James
 
You make a very good point here…upon reflection this seems to be a leftover from the time of the reformation when nations, by virtue of their monarch’s faith, were either Catholic or protestant. Thus, the nations that make up South and Central America, by virtue of having been largely Spanish, are “Catholic nations”, North America, largely influence by England, was largely protestant (French Canada being an exception).

We as Catholics should recognize that some of these supposed “Catholic” parts of the world have large populations of what we call “Cultural Catholics”, or CINO’s (Catholic In Name Only). If such places were “staunchly Catholic”, others would find the pickings very slim indeed. Unfortunately this is not the case and is one of the reasons that the Holy Father, in his addresses for the “New Evangelization” and the “Year of Faith” etc emphasizes the need for work within the Church as well as outside of the Church.

That said, I think that the thing that disturbs the Catholic is how some of these groups believe Catholics are not “saved”…some don’t even believe that Catholics are Christians. Their view it that they are going to basically “pagan lands”…or that is how it sounds to us.
So when we hear of these groups going and getting Catholics “Saved” by drawing them away from the Catholic Church…It is not looked on too kindly.

Peace
James
I would love to see Catholics be much, much more active in evangelizing, teaching, and discipling the many people who are merely cultural Catholics within areas such as Central and South America. If Catholics did this better, evangelicals wouldn’t see the significant numbers of drug- dealing, Santa Muerta-praying, Santaria-practicing cultural Catholics and conclude that the good news of the gospel hasn’t been understood.
 
I love it when I hear Christians claim parts of the world for their own churches. It makes no sense to me… Would the Catholic Church extend the same courtesy to another church claiming religious ownership of a given place?
Since most parts of the US were settled by Protestants, if non-Catholics may not evangelize originally Catholic countries, then I suppose by the same rule Catholics should not be trying to evangelize in most parts of the US, except for trying to call their own straying family members to more faithfulness to Catholicism.
 
I would love to see Catholics be much, much more active in evangelizing, teaching, and discipling the many people who are merely cultural Catholics within areas such as Central and South America. If Catholics did this better, evangelicals wouldn’t see the significant numbers of drug- dealing, Santa Muerta-praying, Santaria-practicing cultural Catholics and conclude that the good news of the gospel hasn’t been understood.
It is true that there are many cultural Catholics especially cradle Catholics. Protestants, especially the Evangelicals are very active in evangelizing. Ordinary Catholics tend to be inert and passive about their faith and the so-called Sunday Christians probably are more contented in leaving the evangelistic work to the priests and the religious, the ‘professional Catholics’.

I have some good Protestant friends and we understand each other. Sometimes good naturedly they would tell story about a person (who was a Catholic) whom they know for some ten years and yet never knew that he was a Catholic until they saw him in a religious occasion. Protestants are not like that; one would know them instantly by the way they speak or they would tell you about it.

Catholics are doing catching up in evangelization especially after the Vatican 2 in the sixties where the laities are involved in running the parishes directly (instead of priests) and many have formed into groups to do services for the Lord.
 
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