Not getting hired because pro-life?

[livingwordunity]

True, but the reality of the situation is that employers will not even ask the question nor will they care…unless you appear to be so blatant and dedicated to your beliefs that you will not be able to work as part of a team. However, that applies to people with such strong views on any subject. Chances are, unless you bring up during the interview that you are strongly pro-life…or put your resume on some theoretical pro-life stationary…the subject won’t come up.

Of course, there are exceptions for firms that are overtly political as a part of their business practices (for example, if one is a free-market conservative and accepts employment at a nearby SEIU local, one had better be willing to keep his head down). If you are pro-life and want to work at Planned Parenthood, well, you know what to expect. But that type of dichotomy is the exception to the rule.

It’s not uncommon for employers to do searches on Facebook and other social media to see if they want to hire someone or not. This was talked about by job hunting experts at a class I attended for transitioning out of the military. This means that it is possible and even likely that someone would not be chosen by an employer who does this if that employer has a strongly Pro-Abortion mindset. The same can be said for an employer who thinks that we are bigots for not accepting so-called “same-sex marriage”. Actually, them knowing that you are Catholic is in itself a tip off to anyone trying to find out about you. This isn’t hard for them to figure out when someone is a practicing Catholic. And they don’t have to tell the person why they weren’t chosen for the position. But then maybe it’s better not to work for someone like that anyway.

 

[Brendan_64]

It’s not uncommon for employers to do searches on Facebook and other social media to see if they want to hire someone or not.

People should do the sensible thing and lock down their Facebook privacy settings. Putting something on public view in Facebook is a bit like printing a poster with all your opinions and private activities on it and putting copies of the posters up in every town in the world for all to see. Doing that is asking for trouble.

 

[markomalley]

It’s not uncommon for employers to do searches on Facebook and other social media to see if they want to hire someone or not. This was talked about by job hunting experts at a class I attended for transitioning out of the military. This means that it is possible and even likely that someone would not be chosen by an employer who does this if that employer has a strongly Pro-Abortion mindset. The same can be said for an employer who thinks that we are bigots for not accepting so-called “same-sex marriage”. Actually, them knowing that you are Catholic is in itself a tip off to anyone trying to find out about you. This isn’t hard for them to figure out when someone is a practicing Catholic. And they don’t have to tell the person why they weren’t chosen for the position. But then maybe it’s better not to work for someone like that anyway.

Sure…and I have done searches on peoples’ names as well. The only thing I look for, frankly, is sexual misconduct or a COMPLETE lack of discretion in other areas (if somebody, for example, is stupid enough to post on Stormfront and stupid enough to use his/her real name…I’m not interested)

You mention “if an employer has a strongly pro-abortion mindset.” I mentioned that, above:

Of course, there are exceptions for firms that are overtly political as a part of their business practices (for example, if one is a free-market conservative and accepts employment at a nearby SEIU local, one had better be willing to keep his head down). If you are pro-life and want to work at Planned Parenthood, well, you know what to expect. But that type of dichotomy is the exception to the rule.

How many employers are actually that political? I don’t know of too many…and they are pretty obvious with their missions so I could avoid them in the first place.

And, frankly, if an employer is that political, why would you want to work with them if your point of view disagrees with theirs?

 

[Captain_America]

They aren’t required to call you back and tell you why they threw your application and resume in the trash.

This is the bottomline.

In reality, if you don’t smell good, you won’t get it. Laws are kind of a joke in this area, and the existence of such laws may mislead you about the realities here.

Sure you’ll be discriminated against.

 

[Tous_Logous]

I can’t see the dots connecting between “pro-life” and “engineering.” However, I’m sure if you let people know that you don’t believe in killing the unborn they’ll think A) you’re crazy, B) you’re religious (in this case, a Christian), C) you’re an idiot, D) you’re hypocritical, or E) all of the above. This is what the western, secular world thinks of people like us.

I am a scientist. I work with educated people. Or at least, I’m supposed to. EX. I kid you not, a co-worker who is college educated, speaks 5 languages, and works very hard sincerely believes that babies are not “alive” until they are “born” (which I’m assuming means, “come out of the womb”). This man has 3 kids. Yet taking a simple biology 101 course as I did (to learn the basic traits unique to all/most life) would provide 100% evidence that babies, are indeed, living upon conception. Yet other scientists disregard such evidence.

For some reason, my co-workers find me strange, zealous, and otherworldly because I believe that life begins at conception. They would never think that a scientist believes in God, loves life, holds traditional values (but like all, I am a sinner), and attends Mass. My arguments always boils down to this, “It’s still murder.” Yet every conversation I’ve ever had is almost like arguing with ice. People just can’t seem to grasp such simple understanding, with both scripture AND science provides evidence for.

I say, don’t worry about it. If someone gets angry at your opinion, it’s his/her problem, not your’s. And, it is illegal to discriminate (in the USA, at least) based upon one’s religious beliefs. But of course, there are plenty of employers who do discriminate based upon such things I’m sure.

 

[Gidge]

I can’t see the dots connecting between “pro-life” and “engineering.” However, I’m sure if you let people know that you don’t believe in killing the unborn they’ll think A) you’re crazy, B) you’re religious (in this case, a Christian), C) you’re an idiot, D) you’re hypocritical, or E) all of the above. This is what the western, secular world thinks of people like us.

I am a scientist. I work with educated people. Or at least, I’m supposed to. EX. I kid you not, a co-worker who is college educated, speaks 5 languages, and works very hard sincerely believes that babies are not “alive” until they are “born” (which I’m assuming means, “come out of the womb”). This man has 3 kids. Yet taking a simple biology 101 course as I did (to learn the basic traits unique to all/most life) would provide 100% evidence that babies, are indeed, living upon conception. Yet other scientists disregard such evidence.

For some reason, my co-workers find me strange, zealous, and otherworldly because I believe that life begins at conception. They would never think that a scientist believes in God, loves life, holds traditional values (but like all, I am a sinner), and attends Mass. My arguments always boils down to this, “It’s still murder.” Yet every conversation I’ve ever had is almost like arguing with ice. People just can’t seem to grasp such simple understanding, with both scripture AND science provides evidence for.

I say, don’t worry about it. If someone gets angry at your opinion, it’s his/her problem, not your’s. And, it is illegal to discriminate (in the USA, at least) based upon one’s religious beliefs. But of course, there are plenty of employers who do discriminate based upon such things I’m sure.

Schooling in general, and science in particular over the past century has created quite a caste system, and unless one either keep silent about his/her faith or embrace atheism,
one runs the risk of running afoul of the powers that be (read: loss of job) in the eugenics influenced graduate schools and in the drug-based paradigm of medicine.

"One of the most amazing deceptive practices relating to science has been the successful concealment, by the managers of science and science teaching, of the strong religious component shared by many of the greatest names in science: Copernicus, Galileo, Boyle, Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Kelvin and many more. Even Galileo had no doubt about his faith in God… Newton’s Principia is unambiguous on this matter, saying "He must be blind who…cannot see the infinite wisdom and goodness of [the] Almighty Creator and he must be mad, or senseless, who refused to acknowledge [Him].

A.P. French quotes Albert Einstein in his Einstein: A Centenary Volume (1979) on the matter this way:

You will hardly find one among the profounder sort of scientific minds without a religious feeling…,rapturous amazement of the natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection. This feeling is the guiding principle of his life and work. It is beyond questions closely akin to that which has possessed the religious geniuses of all ages.

But neither Newton or Einstein cut the mustard, where their spirituality might raise embarrassing questions among schoolchildren. School science is almost purely about lifeless mechanics".

Source: johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/

 

[Captain_America]

re: above.

Yes, good to point this out! I always half-chuckle/half-sadden when I run into scientific references where the “Fr.” is dropped off the person’s name.

There should be a new word made up for those who so contort themselves to avoid saying anything that has the appearance of religion (e.g., AD, BC), in order not to “outrage” their audience. . . an audience which presumably is mature enough to handle the fact that there ARE religions in this world!