"Not my will but thine be done"

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We know that God is one, and that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are in perfect harmony and agreement in will and thought. See Catechism:
267 Inseparable in what they are, the divine persons are also inseparable in what they do. But within the single divine operation each shows forth what is proper to him in the Trinity, especially in the divine missions of the Son’s Incarnation and the gift of the Holy Spirit.
We know that Jesus Christ has a divine nature, and a human nature, and so has both a divine will and a human will. We know that His natures are united; His wills are in perfect harmony and accord. See Catechism:.
470 Because “human nature was assumed, not absorbed”, in the mysterious union of the Incarnation, the Church was led over the course of centuries to confess the full reality of Christ’s human soul, with its operations of intellect and will, and of his human body. In parallel fashion, she had to recall on each occasion that Christ’s human nature belongs, as his own, to the divine person of the Son of God, who assumed it. Everything that Christ is and does in this nature derives from “one of the Trinity”. The Son of God therefore communicates to his humanity his own personal mode of existence in the Trinity. In his soul as in his body, Christ thus expresses humanly the divine ways of the Trinity:
The Son of God. . . worked with human hands; he thought with a human mind. He acted with a human will, and with a human heart he loved. Born of the Virgin Mary, he has truly been made one of us, like to us in all things except sin.
475 Similarly, at the sixth ecumenical council, Constantinople III in 681, the Church confessed that Christ possesses two wills and two natural operations, divine and human. They are not opposed to each other, but cooperate in such a way that the Word made flesh willed humanly in obedience to his Father all that he had decided divinely with the Father and the Holy Spirit for our salvation.110 Christ’s human will "does not resist or oppose but rather submits to his divine and almighty will."111
481 Jesus Christ possesses two natures, one divine and the other human, not confused, but united in the one person of God’s Son.
482 Christ, being true God and true man, has a human intellect and will, perfectly attuned and subject to his divine intellect and divine will, which he has in common with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
483 The Incarnation is therefore the mystery of the wonderful union of the divine and human natures in the one person of the Word.
So where is the contrast Jesus showed when He prayed that the Father’s will be done, not His own? Whose will was not the Father’s will? Who had a desire to do something besides what the Father desired? Jesus the human nature, born without sin, had no desire to sin, and so it was not His will. Christ the divine nature was in perfect harmony with the Father.
 
My :twocents:…

We cannot assume that Jesus’ finite human intellect contained everything that His infinite divine intellect contained. In the garden of Gethesemene, Jesus asked if there might be another way of effecting the redemption of mankind that He wasn’t aware of with His human intellect that would be equally in accord with His Father’s will but wouldn’t require such a torturous death because, if there was, He would prefer that to the way of the Cross. This seems like a prudent thing to ask.
 
We all ultimately want God’s Divine Will. I think Jesus was well aware that Salvation is God’s Will and that God had chosen this torture and death to achieve mankind’s salvation. Knowing that does not lessen the anguish He surely experienced in anticipating the inevitable. Have you ever said, “There’s a part of me that…_____”. I think He was expressing the dread He must have felt knowing what was to come.

This is true of all suffering. Being redemptive, suffering is good. But it is experienced as bad. There is no denying that.

I found myself repeating Jesus’ words “Let this cup pass from me…Not my will but Thine be done” as I sat in an ambulance listening to paramedics work on my dying 2 year old baby boy. My family has suffered the ultimate suffering. We have the joy of knowing that all that suffering will result in immeasurable good. Knowing it was God’s plan, I would not turn back the clock to try to keep my son in his earthly life. However, do I long for him? Sure. Did I “wish” that God’s will more closely matched mine at that moment? You bet!

Jesus wasn’t looking forward to his torture. I was touched by the scene in the Passion where he is carrying the cross and tells his mother, “See, I make all things new”. He knew his purpose. His will was not different from “The Father’s” just as my will was not different from God’s. Still, there’s always a part of you that wishes things could have been different.
 
My :twocents:…

We cannot assume that Jesus’ finite human intellect contained everything that His infinite divine intellect contained.
I agree. In fact, we can be sure that it did not, since no human intellect, not even Jesus’ human intellect, is all knowing. And no human will, not even Jesus’ human will, is as powerful as the divine will (which he of course also possessed.)

Jesus’ human nature was not merely a disguise; it was real. He was truly human (in addition to being truly divine.
 
A good article but it doesn’t address the thread. Neither do the other responses. His will is the Father’s will; Jesus’ will is the Christ’s will; there is no room for wishing things could be different. This is not an intellectual limitation but one of will. There is a paradox here.
 
I think you may be reading into the text a divergence between Jesus human will and his divine will which was not there.

His statement, “not my will but thine be done,” certainly verifies that he had both a human and a divine will. A human will expresses a human nature, and the divine will expresses the divine nature.

The prayer of Jesus seems to me to be rather a human prayer that his will be always in accord with the divine will, and it was, since both wills resided in the same Person.

I don’t think his words imply that there was at some point a divergence of the two wills that had to be reconciled, only that his human nature was severely tested by the prospect of his upcoming passion.
 
I think you may be reading into the text a divergence between Jesus human will and his divine will which was not there.

His statement, “not my will but thine be done,” certainly verifies that he had both a human and a divine will. A human will expresses a human nature, and the divine will expresses the divine nature.

The prayer of Jesus seems to me to be rather a human prayer that his will be always in accord with the divine will, and it was, since both wills resided in the same Person.

I don’t think his words imply that there was at some point a divergence of the two wills that had to be reconciled, only that his human nature was severely tested by the prospect of his upcoming passion.
How was it severely tested, if without sin or tendency to sin? How does this compare to how we are tested, and what comfort can we take in Jesus as a model who struggled, this suggests, far more than we know in reconciling His two natures, and what comfort in surrendering our will to Him when He is our example of struggle, even in the will? How could His human will possibly keep up with His divine will? It is human to not always be where we want to be in our wills, and I think there is something really
deep here.

The incarnation is the fountainhead of theology: from it come doctrines concerning the nature of Scripture and revelation, the church, redemption, atonement, Mary, sacraments - in short, everything. How we understand the incarnation affects the rest of our theology so deeply that we often overlook it. Who is this Jesus, this God-Man, this Lord of the Church, infinitely mysterious and remote and yet familiar and omnipresent, creator of the cosmos and eater of fish, maker of the sun and watcher of the sunrise, totally surrendered to God His Father yet struggling: Almighty God, struggling in a garden? For there is only one Second Person of the Trinity, not two, and what happened to Jesus happened to God. What God did, Jesus did; what Jesus did, God did.

This is not too far from the edge of the untrackable and unsearchable, but I think we can press ahead a ways.
 
I think you may be reading into the text a divergence between Jesus human will and his divine will which was not there.

His statement, “not my will but thine be done,” certainly verifies that he had both a human and a divine will. A human will expresses a human nature, and the divine will expresses the divine nature.

The prayer of Jesus seems to me to be rather a human prayer that his will be always in accord with the divine will, and it was, since both wills resided in the same Person.

I don’t think his words imply that there was at some point a divergence of the two wills that had to be reconciled, only that his human nature was severely tested by the prospect of his upcoming passion.
Jim, are you saying that in a sense…He was talking to Himself.
The human part of Jesus (I understand He’s fully human, fully divine), but the human nature had to be convinced (?) by His divine nature?

Ugh…I don’t think that’s what your saying, but all of a sudden it made sense why He would be praying to Himself…in a way.
(just call me confused about the trinity. 😃 )
 
How was it severely tested, if without sin or tendency to sin? How does this compare to how we are tested, and what comfort can we take in Jesus as a model who struggled, this suggests, far more than we know in reconciling His two natures, and what comfort in surrendering our will to Him when He is our example of struggle, even in the will? How could His human will possibly keep up with His divine will? It is human to not always be where we want to be in our wills, and I think there is something really deep here.
These faults are not from human nature per se, but rather attributes of the Fall. Perfect human nature does not have a tendency to sin, but can still be tested and tested harshly. After all, Adam and Eve were perfect when tested by Satan, and they failed.

Christ, being God, could not fail, but He could most certainly be tested and tempted by Satan. Indeed, He was tempted much more harshly by Satan as Satan directed all the more effort in His direction due to His surpassing Holiness. As for His human will submitting to His Divine Will, this does not imply divergence at all, but rather submission and perfect clarity. The reason that Christ would say “not my (human) will” is because the human will, of its own, is absolutely incapable of Divine things. In order to be truly elevated, the human will must “step-aside”, or become transparent, and let the Divine Will shine through it. In doing so even normal humans like us can be lifted up to Divine works, and indeed we’re called to exactly that.

St. John of the Cross, Doctor of the Church, speaks on this submission of the human will to the Divine in his work “The Ascent of Mount Carmel - Dark Night of the Soul”, and I think it’s worth quoting at length -
  1. And it is this that Saint John desired to explain when he said: Qui non ex sanguinibus, neque ex voluntate carnis, neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. As though he had said: He gave power to be sons of God – that is, to be transformed in God – only to those who are born, not of blood – that is, not of natural constitution and temperament – neither of the will of the flesh – that is, of the free will of natural capacity and ability – still less of the will of man – wherein is included every way and manner of judging and comprehending with the understanding. He gave power to none of these to become sons of God, but only to those that are born of God – that is, to those who, being born again through grace, and dying first of all to everything that is of the old man, are raised above themselves to the supernatural, and receive from God this rebirth and adoption, which transcends all that can be imagined…
  2. In order that both these things may be the better understood, let us make a comparison. A ray of sunlight is striking a window. If the window is in any way stained or misty, the sun’s ray will be unable to illumine it and transform it into its own light, totally, as it would if it were clean of all these things, and pure; but it will illumine it to a lesser degree, in proportion as it is less free from those mists and stains; and will do so to a greater degree, in proportion as it is cleaner from them, and this will not be because of the sun’s ray, but because of itself; so much so that, if it be wholly pure and clean, the ray of sunlight will transform it and illumine it in such wise that it will itself seem to be a ray and will give the same light as the ray.
Although in reality the window has a nature distinct from that of the ray itself, however much it may resemble it, yet we may say that that window is a ray of the sun or is light by participation. And the soul is like this window, whereupon is ever beating (or, to express it better, wherein is ever dwelling) this Divine light of the Being of God according to nature, which we have described.
  1. In thus allowing God to work in it, the soul (having rid itself of every mist and stain of the creatures, which consists in having its will perfectly united with that of God, for to love is to labour to detach and strip itself for God’s sake of all that is not God) is at once illumined and transformed in God, and God communicates to it His supernatural Being, in such wise that it appears to be God Himself, and has all that God Himself has. And this union comes to pass when God grants the soul this supernatural favour, that all the things of God and the soul are one in participant transformation; and the soul seems to be God rather than a soul, and is indeed God by participation…
Here he is speaking of our own wills and not Christ’s specifically, but the same premise applies. The human will, while really distinct in nature, must melt away into the Divine Will.

In the Garden of Gethsemene, Christ was not wrestling with His Divinity, He was manifesting it.

Peace and God bless!
 
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