NOT repent, NO Heaven

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Our priest stated in his homely, that it is not those who are sinners who do not get to heaven ( for we are all sinners) but it is those who do not or will not repent who will not get to heaven or go to hell.

Does this seem hard knowing we are all bound to break the rules?
 
We do indeed all break the rules, but REPENTANCE means turning back to God each time we are aware that we have broken his rules.

This is what’s so amazing about God’s mercy and grace. Even if we sin against Him seventy-seven times in one day, and each time turn back to Him and ask His forgiveness, He will forgive us! Alleluia!
 
I just want to add that to be repentant means to be honestly and wholeheartedly sorry about your sin and that you will try not to ever commit that sin again. If you honestly slip up and you are honestly sorry again, and will try not to do it again God will forgive you.

To often though, I’ve talked to people who are flipent about this. They commit a sin knowingly because God will just forgive them anyway, and they really aren’t sorry about it because they believe that is how it works.
 
“Too often though, I’ve talked to people who are flippant about this. They commit a sin knowingly because God will just forgive them anyway, and they really aren’t sorry about it because they believe that is how it works.”
And THAT’S a good example of presumption of God’s mercy- a sin against the Holy Spirit (if I’m not wrong).
We shouldn’t consider God’s forgiveness to be automatic (as in no need to ask for forgiveness). Neither should we assume we need to do more than going to confession with true sorrow for our sins for our sins to be forgiven. This includes promising God that we wouldn’t sin again for (1) all fall short of the glory of God over and over again and (2) if we can keep this promise by ourselves then we don’t need God.
It’s true, though, NO repentance = NO heaven, for NO repentance = rejecting God and if we reject God how can we ask to spend all eternity with Him in Heaven?
 
littleone said:
Our priest stated in his homely, that it is not those who are sinners who do not get to heaven ( for we are all sinners) but it is those who do not or will not repent who will not get to heaven or go to hell.

Does this seem hard knowing we are all bound to break the rules?
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I find it comforting and not at all a difficult or hard concept…and as a consistent breaker of rules somewhere or other. Though I keep on trying, to date, and with sorrow that I am so persistently weak. The Love of God embraces totally with Mercy the weak who keep on trying to overcome and with a repentant heart, we are told, and this disposition is intrisic to our spirituality. This is of great comfort.
Presumption on the Mercy of God is another matter altogether with a complete uncaring attitude towards quite deliberate sin or sins, expecting God to embrace, granting Mercy, to one who has this attitude, which is presumption. It is not a hope in God’s Mercy it is a presuming and taking Mercy for granted as preordained allowing one to commit sin or sins without concerns or efforts to avoid same without any need for heartfelt repentance and renewed efforts to avoid sin in the future.
 
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Presumption on the Mercy of God is a complete uncaring attitude towards quite deliberate sin or sins, expecting God to embrace, granting Mercy, to one who has this attitude, which is presumption. It is not a hope in God’s Mercy it is a presuming and taking Mercy for granted as preordained allowing one to commit sin or sins without concerns or efforts to avoid same without any need for heartfelt repentance and renewed efforts to avoid sin in the future.
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Hi Barb,
I hope you don’t mind, I have taken some of your passage I hope you don’t mind and hope to use it in a way to express “mercy”.

The word presumption or to presume, to take a situation into ones own mind in such a way that glory or control is only for the person desirous of carrying on with the sinful attitude, but wanting to be forgiven at the cost of the forgiver, and for that persons own adulteress desire. Under this cloud there could be definitely no forgiveness thus no entry into heaven, ,unless and this is the part we do not know and could never and that is under the mercy of God He looks at the heart NOT head, so entry is through the love of God and He alone knows when / if a person has seeded forgiveness.

Seem right or near?

Godbless
 
No, of course I don’t mind! Reflections and perspectives on God and His Loving Mercy and our natures as sinners and inclined towards sin are probably absolutely endless…and all rich! If Scripture is an inexhaustible treasury, then God’s Mercy is even moreso inexhaustIible and a great treasury. I rather like the Parable of the Publican and The Sinner and also that of The Prodigal Son and The Good Shepherd, wherein Jesus is telling us something about God and His Loving Mercy towards us…and even on these three parables as an example, reflections and perspectives are probably endless.

Blessings…Barb:)
 
It is sad that the first lack of repentance is not in the bible nd is about satin being too proud to serve which is the point I related to. In the beginning of the bible.
The other is the first family, right from them came the refusal to serve and more so the refusal to accept God’s will to love each other.
It was through these first two acts that we have that stain in mankind.
It is then, only right that God the Father Himself put it right by sending His son to show the way we should serve Him and each other, and repent when our humanness shows to be fare to strong for us to go against.

People don’t seem to realize that in the realm of heaven where there is NO sin there fore NO refusal to love and NO need to repent or be governed by time there is then for ever to pray a prayer untainted, to God for those still on this earth we live on.
Adoration to God has then to be also guided towards God’s children since God made us His children to His likeness ( in the spirit). That surely is one reason why God tells us to tend firstly towards the spirit and all things will be given to us!
But we can’t expect those in heaven to do all the work. We must repent to get to Heaven.

Godbless
 
We are all sinners. Pope Bendict is a sinner. Pope John Paul II was a sinner. We are ALL sinners. Some do it to a greater degree than others. However, those who repent and know that they have done wrong will get to Heaven. If all sinners went to Hell, Heaven would be one lonely place.
 
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