Paul was responding to those who came to Galatia and taught the nascent Christian community there that it was necessary to obey Mosaic Law (circumcision, dietary law, etc, etc) in order to be saved. Paul had to remind them that they were no longer under the Law (of Moses) but under the freedom of the Holy Spirit.Today’s reading from Gal says we are not under the law but the spirit. We are under plenty of law. The 10 commandments from which many laws come. Mass every week at least. Or a dispensation. There is a suggestion of freedom here. I don’t quite understand.
No, not exactly although we are FREE to always choose to sin or NOT to sin.Today’s reading from Gal says we are not under the law but the spirit. We are under plenty of law. The 10 commandments from which many laws come. Mass every week at least. Or a dispensation. There is a suggestion of freedom here. I don’t quite understand.
So your saying then that that mentioning of spirit is the Holy Spirit. That helps. There were Noah’s laws. Maybe not a lot of laws but something. I believe we are told even now. “We sin daily” so the only thing I know of that can save that is the Eucharist.
As I say, “We sin daily”. Too bad I guess. Maybe not mortal sin. But venial I believe here.No, not exactly although we are FREE to always choose to sin or NOT to sin.
Ecclesiasticus 15:18
Before man is life and death, good and evil, that which he shall choose shall be given him
The “law” here references the 613 ADDED-ON to the 10 Commandments; NOT to the Commandments themselves.
The moral LESSON though is that because of GRACE, we are now living under the NEW Covenant; which BTW, overrides, but does NOT delete the OT Covenants.And ALL of {the body of} teaching by Jesus throughout the NT now take precedence:thumbsup:.
God Bless you
Patrick
I didn’t mean a license to sin. It is said the law is/was a taskmaster. All do’s and don’ts. The holy spirit tells us right and wrong? IS that’s what is meant? And is that through the church?
Paul also said it is through the law that we come to knowledge of sin. To see this another way, think in terms of what the Catechism teaches about the supremacy of the conscience. We are obligated both to obey our conscience and to form it. So we have the Church acting as teacher, where once there was the law, helping use to “know sin”.
I do not trust conscious. If we have to form it then it must not have been before. Not before baptism or confirmation anyway. But then there’s the Word put into the heart of man whatever that means.
This is the best summary for it, as I understand the faith, by St Basil of Cesarea:Today’s reading from Gal says we are not under the law but the spirit. We are under plenty of law. The 10 commandments from which many laws come. Mass every week at least. Or a dispensation. There is a suggestion of freedom here. I don’t quite understand.
There were many laws in the Old Testaments. The laws that were used by the government of the Jews were religious laws; they make no different to them. Perhaps a close resemblance would be the shariat laws of the Muslims.Today’s reading from Gal says we are not under the law but the spirit. We are under plenty of law. The 10 commandments from which many laws come. Mass every week at least. Or a dispensation. There is a suggestion of freedom here. I don’t quite understand.
moral law. Canon law too.
Here is the OP
Hi. That’s a good one. In a sense we have replaced Moses laws with our canon laws as Christian governance. There’s a parallel to them.
The meaning of the word “law” is different in these three usages, as it is if we speak of criminal law. Moral laws are not punishable with at ticket, for example. In this case, the English word “principle” is more refined. Likewise, “rules” are more suitable for canon law.
Hum. Well there is in law “legislative rules” Administrative law with the power of law. Moral law can be a violation of criminal law in our laws. IDK is that’s a good likeness. I am still not quite sure what your saying. Moral law is punished by sin in the Church? What is punishment of not following canon law. There’s a sin for getting remarried without an annulment isn’t there? That’s Canon law.
Of course there is a relationship between the moral and civil law, but they remain distinct. Greed, lust and hate are not punishable in court, and not providing for employees contraception is not immoral, though each may be a violation of another type of law. Canon law, which are simply the rules of governance of the Church, may address a moral issue, as you pointed out, but this is not all that canon law does.
Oh yes. Except those who want their sin. And of course they will pay for it. I am guilty. We all are. Yes moral law is universal. But civil law or law of countries, certainly isn’t.
