Nothing new under the sun: what are the implications?

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Ecclesiastes 1:2 – 11: Vanity of vanities! All is vanity. What advantage does man have in all his work which he does under the sun? . . . That which has been is that which will be, and that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one might say, “See this, it is new”? Already it has existed for ages which were before us. There is no remembrance of earlier things, and also of the later things which will occur; there will be for them no remembrance among those who will come later still.

What are the implications of the above verses? Does it apply to all human technology? Where else would human technology come from? Is there really a world above that guides and protects us?
 
Not necessarily.

When we die, we give up our earthly body. But, just our ancestors did, we will hopefully leave a better life, a better condition for the next generation.

In solar systems, Sun’s eventually consume their planets.

Our Sun will consume humanity, the plants the animals, the buildings. All that humanity has built will cease.

The condition that matters most however is our connection and relationship to Our Maker.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Ecclesiastes 1:2 – 11: Vanity of vanities! All is vanity. What advantage does man have in all his work which he does under the sun? . . . That which has been is that which will be, and that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one might say, “See this, it is new”? Already it has existed for ages which were before us. There is no remembrance of earlier things, and also of the later things which will occur; there will be for them no remembrance among those who will come later still.

What are the implications of the above verses? Does it apply to all human technology? Where else would human technology come from? Is there really a world above that guides and protects us?
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Technology comes from the conceatenation of human minds working in synergy. It is “new” in the sense that earlier ages did not have electric light, jet engines, iPod, etc.

But nothing is fundamentally new in human life. Human beings are still born, some will form couples and procreate, all will become victims of death; and all in the same order of time (decades, not centuries or millenniums) that King Solomon knew.

When the blood finally drains from your head, you will be in precisely the same plight as the greatest Nobel-class scientist or the most ignorant member of a subsistence culture when that happens to them. Technology has altered the special-effects budget in human life; it cannot change the screenplay.

God Bless and ICXC NIKA.
 
On Discovery Science, the astronomers on a program talked about the base elements that are created in star formation and star destruction.

Humans and stars share the element iron - along with many others.
 
Let’s be humble and acknowledge that we are living in the lowest of all possible worlds. Certainly, an upper world exists that makes all our technology possible. Our innate wit is so severely limited that we could not have possibly brought our world to where it is today, over such a short period of time. Look at the technology around us. Could we have possibly produced it with our very limited innate wit? Ask yourself: do any of us have the innate wit to figure out how to manufacture a simple box of toothpicks? (It much, much tougher than most people ever realize) Do you think a group of “intelligent” college professors could figure out an efficient method of manufacturing boxes of toothpicks? Listen to the words of Ecclesiastes again and ask if we have been doped into thinking that we are responsible for the technology around us?
 
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Ecclesiastes 1:2 – 11: Vanity of vanities! All is vanity. What advantage does man have in all his work which he does under the sun? . . . That which has been is that which will be, and that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one might say, “See this, it is new”? Already it has existed for ages which were before us. There is no remembrance of earlier things, and also of the later things which will occur; there will be for them no remembrance among those who will come later still.

What are the implications of the above verses? Does it apply to all human technology? Where else would human technology come from? Is there really a world above that guides and protects us?
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At the time of Ecclesiastes, that was correct. There were men of power, and the poor. There were those in suffering and joy. There were Lazy, Gluttonous, Prideful, and Lustful. There always will be. We must always strive for the better things. What was taught in the past, is still true today.

We might say, ‘nuclear power is new’. It is a new way to harness energy but it still does what energy has always done.

We might say ‘medicine is new’. We still have sickness, and some is still cured, and some is not.

What is new, something that happened once and will never happen again. Something that breaks the mold of this world and shatters it on the ground. Something that will never be forgotten in the heavens, on the earth and under the earth.
        • The incarnation of God and the Salvation of Mankind - - - -
Breaking the cycle of sin and death. It put the lie to religions the teach an eternal cycle of life and reincarnation. It puts the lie to materialism and selfishness. It can raise us out of the dust of the earth to the spiritual realm. It happened once and never needs to happen again.
 
I believe we live in a make-believe world! It’s a world of illusion! To say we evolved from apes is ridiculous! To think that earthly science led to the technology we see in our world today is equally ridiculous! THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN! That which has been is that which will be! These things ought to be taken literally. God makes all this happen!

The biggest difference between the make-believe of children and that of adults is that children usually knows that they are just pretending!
 
Let me take you down, 'cause I’m going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hung about.
Strawberry Fields forever.
Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.
-Beatles
 
Robert, technology is nothing new either. Man has been it’s source ever since we were able to reason. And while today’s technology is much more sophisticated than yesterdays, it was nevertheless built, one step at a time, on yesterdays knowledge. Solomons’ lamentations are as true today as they were in his time regarding the things that we think will change the world or make things better-at least to the extent that they can’t produce the happiness we all desire. No matter where we look, there’s nothing to be found here on this earth-here in creation- that will fulfill that desire-and todays’ sparkling technology is nothing more than tomorrows faded history.
 
fhansen said:
Robert, technology is nothing new either. Man has been it’s source ever since we were able to reason. And while today’s technology is much more sophisticated than yesterdays, it was nevertheless built, one step at a time, on yesterdays knowledge. Solomons’ lamentations are as true today as they were in his time regarding the things that we think will change the world or make things better-at least to the extent that they can’t produce the happiness we all desire. No matter where we look, there’s nothing to be found here on this earth-here in creation- that will fulfill that desire-and todays’ sparkling technology is nothing more than tomorrows faded history.
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But God and the Heavens above had knowledge of all technology before the beginning of our time. The technology that we attribute to human wit is really from God and the Heavens above! We humans do not process the innate wit necessary for today’s technology.

Human memory (immediate or working memory) is limited to five to nine bits of information. This is a severe limitation within the human species. For example, compare the working memory of humans to the working memory of a computer and you will begin to see the severe limitation of human wit. Given the limitation of human wit, it pays to fill our working memory with faith, hope and LOVE!

Beware of illusions!!!
 
When G-d returns the exiles of Zion, we will have been as dreamers
– Psalms 126:1
 
The last time I saw somebody posting this kind of incoherent stuff, it was a lady who was slipping into a diabetic coma.

I see that you posted pretty calmly today, so I guess that’s not what’s going on, but you’re worrying me.

Please check your health, sir. Are you sure you’re okay? When was the last time you ate? Have you been drinking plenty of water?

Take care of yourself. Just because eternity is a deeper reality than this one, it doesn’t mean that God’s Creation, time and space, isn’t real and in earnest.
 
Mintaka said:
The last time I saw somebody posting this kind of incoherent stuff, it was a lady who was slipping into a diabetic coma. You are worrying me.

Please check your health, sir. Are you sure you’re okay? When was the last time you ate? Have you been drinking plenty of water?
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Nice try to cut my view to pieces, but it seems to be a cheap shoot! To think that earthy science belongs to us, independently of God and the Heavens above, is a disservice to God.
 
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