Notre Dame University no longer a Catholic University

[Snerticus]

There will come a time when good is called evil, and evil is called good…

I’ve aready concluded that this time is here. We are truly in the end times.

The last times: perhaps not, but they are close at hand.

 

[Rach620]

What doesn’t Notre Dame have that you have? We have mass everyday in all of the dorms. We have four masses available everyday in the Basilica. There is Exposition of the Blessed Eucharistic in the student chapel from 12-9 every Monday-Thursday and in the Basilica from 12-4:45 on Friday. Campus Ministry has an active retreat program. There are requirements to do service missions every year (usually in Chicago or Appalachia). The Rosary is said at the Grotto everyday at 6:45 p.m. come sun, rain or snow. The Rosary is also said everyday at 6:15 in the Basilica crypt. Campus Ministry has a discernment program:

Evil is often cloaked in a shroud of goodness.

Notre Dame is evil? That takes it a bit far, wouldn’t you think?

I am a member of the Class of 2009–I graduated with a degree in political science and theology. I found my orthodox niche at ND, and I was not at all alone. There are many challenges, but I tell everyone I know that we simply cannot give up on Notre Dame. It has been such a force for good in the world, and in my own life, and I pray that it continues to be so–and becomes better!

Please go to ndresponse.com and read about the demonstrations that took place in opposition to Obama’s appearance and honor at Commencement this Sunday. At the very least, read the press release and Fr. Miscamble’s talk from the rally.

It is unfortunate that an elderly priest was arrested for walking on campus saying the rosary, but it wasn’t like NDSP swooped in unexpectedly to arrest his group. Notre Dame is a private university with a long-standing prohibition against protests of any kind that do not receive proper permissions and are not led by “members of the university community.” Thousands were at the Grotto and on South Quad on Sunday with ND Response, celebrating the Mass, hearing speakers quite vehemently criticize Notre Dame, and praying the Rosary in the Grotto. NO, you haven’t heard about this because it wasn’t as radical as the fringe protests where arrests were made, but plenty more people prayerfully participated in these events–WITH NO ARRESTS.

 

[Fitz]

I don’t think we can (or should) judge Notre Dame on the basis of one bad decision by Father Jenkins. I think you need to look at the totality. I doubt strongly that everyone at the graduation ceremony was wildly cheering Obama. There were a lot of faculty (like myself) who refused to be associated with this graduation. I think if you were to spend a few weeks here you might come to understand Notre Dame a little better – sure there are problems, but there is a lot of good here as well. The wheat and the tares grow together. The fact they had an alternate graduation for those who refused to attend the Obama ceremony in a way testifies they figured out they messed up. It would not have been a good idea to rescind the Obama invitation once it was accepted. They’ll think twice next time.

I am glad to read your comments. I have family that has graduated from ND and I have usually held the University in high esteem. However, being very pro-life, I was very saddened by this whole thing However I do think it is to their credit that they did allow the students that were protesting to set up the alternative graduation. I also thought VERY highly about those students. I am so amazed that they have made it through college with their faith intact and with the ability to think so cleary about life issues at an age when many people are self absorbed. These students invited the most pro-life speakers and they also had their families to consider. All in all they are the success in this whole situation. I think we all need to have hope for the future and pray that ND does learn from this. I do believe they will lose money with this also. I think we all need to realize that the Holy Spirit was alive last weekend and worked through these brave young college graduates.

 

[Catholic20064]

I am glad to read your comments. I have family that has graduated from ND and I have usually held the University in high esteem. However, being very pro-life, I was very saddened by this whole thing However I do think it is to their credit that they did allow the students that were protesting to set up the alternative graduation. I also thought VERY highly about those students. I am so amazed that they have made it through college with their faith intact and with the ability to think so cleary about life issues at an age when many people are self absorbed. These students invited the most pro-life speakers and they also had their families to consider. All in all they are the success in this whole situation. I think we all need to have hope for the future and pray that ND does learn from this. I do believe they will lose money with this also. I think we all need to realize that the Holy Spirit was alive last weekend and worked through these brave young college graduates.

I think you need to understand my perspective a little bit. I came to Notre Dame as a non-Catholic. I never had any overt encouragement to convert to Catholicism, but the Spirit of the place finally got to me and I converted after 16 years of working here. Being able to attend mass here opened my eyes to the truths of the Catholic Church. I admit I sometimes think my conversion happened in spite of some of the things I experienced on campus, but the truths of Christ are here if people are willing to seek them out. A student who comes to Notre Dame has every opportunity to develop a full Catholic life and no real excuse not to.

 

[Catholic20064]

Notre Dame is evil? That takes it a bit far, wouldn’t you think?

I am a member of the Class of 2009–I graduated with a degree in political science and theology. I found my orthodox niche at ND, and I was not at all alone. There are many challenges, but I tell everyone I know that we simply cannot give up on Notre Dame. It has been such a force for good in the world, and in my own life, and I pray that it continues to be so–and becomes better!

Please go to ndresponse.com and read about the demonstrations that took place in opposition to Obama’s appearance and honor at Commencement this Sunday. At the very least, read the press release and Fr. Miscamble’s talk from the rally.

It is unfortunate that an elderly priest was arrested for walking on campus saying the rosary, but it wasn’t like NDSP swooped in unexpectedly to arrest his group. Notre Dame is a private university with a long-standing prohibition against protests of any kind that do not receive proper permissions and are not led by “members of the university community.” Thousands were at the Grotto and on South Quad on Sunday with ND Response, celebrating the Mass, hearing speakers quite vehemently criticize Notre Dame, and praying the Rosary in the Grotto. NO, you haven’t heard about this because it wasn’t as radical as the fringe protests where arrests were made, but plenty more people prayerfully participated in these events–WITH NO ARRESTS.

That rally was great. I enjoyed Father Miscamble’s speech and Father Raphael’s speech in particular, but all of the speakers were good. And the mass was beautiful. The crowd on the South Quad didn’t join the Rosary until the end of the second mystery, but Father Pavone’s meditations seemed pretty powerful.

The only thing I would like to see organized on campus is a daily praying of the Divine Mercy chaplet. It’s something I think we could use and rally around here. Maybe it’s happening and I don’t know about it.

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[Rach620]

That rally was great. I enjoyed Father Miscamble’s speech and Father Raphael’s speech in particular, but all of the speakers were good. And the mass was beautiful. The crowd on the South Quad didn’t join the Rosary until the end of the second mystery, but Father Pavone’s meditations seemed pretty powerful.

The only thing I would like to see organized on campus is a daily praying of the Divine Mercy chaplet. It’s something I think we could use and rally around here. Maybe it’s happening and I don’t know about it.

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As a graduate myself, I was in the Grotto from the beginning of the Rosary, and missed most of the speeches besides Fr. Miscamble’s!

As for the Divine Mercy chaplet, I believe it is prayed daily (during the academic year) at Eucharistic Adoration in Coleman-Morse at 3pm. Or at least it should be by whomever is present during that time slot!

 

[Teelynn]

Joannm;5221670:

Catholic20064;5220950:

What doesn’t Notre Dame have that you have? We have mass everyday in all of the dorms. We have four masses available everyday in the Basilica. There is Exposition of the Blessed Eucharistic in the student chapel from 12-9 every Monday-Thursday and in the Basilica from 12-4:45 on Friday. Campus Ministry has an active retreat program. There are requirements to do service missions every year (usually in Chicago or Appalachia). The Rosary is said at the Grotto everyday at 6:45 p.m. come sun, rain or snow. The Rosary is also said everyday at 6:15 in the Basilica crypt. Campus Ministry has a discernment program:

Evil is often cloaked in a shroud of goodness.

I compare this to a parish with good people that has been sent a renegade dissident Pastor. It’s the heirarchy of Notre Dame that has gone astray. However, I am dissappointed in the number of students and families that were giving the President a standing ovation, and seeming to idolize him like the rest of America. There was a group of students that refused to go and support all this, that Fr. Pavone led in their own commencement. Sadly not enough of them.

 

[peary]

That is just bogus. OF COURSE ND is a Catholic University. The president of that institution has made some bad decisions. He needs to go.