Novena for the dead?

[camkutz]

It’s 9 days until my Nan’s first anniversary since she passed, she’s called Heather please pray for her, but please could one of you give me an appropriate Novena to start praying for her? I feel rubbish, and worried for her, and I want to do a Novena,
thanks in advance!

 

[Marie5890]

It’s 9 days until my Nan’s first anniversary since she passed, she’s called Heather please pray for her, but please could one of you give me an appropriate Novena to start praying for her? I feel rubbish, and worried for her, and I want to do a Novena,
thanks in advance!

Here is one

catholicdoors.com/prayers/english5/p03462.htm

There are others, too. If you do a google search for novena for the dead, several pop up, including one for the holy souls in purgatory.

God Bless.

Lord, have mercy on the soul of Heather, camkutz’s nana.

 

[po18guy]

A daily chaplet of divine Mercy is also fine.

 

[Emily2014]

It’s 9 days until my Nan’s first anniversary since she passed, she’s called Heather please pray for her, but please could one of you give me an appropriate Novena to start praying for her? I feel rubbish, and worried for her, and I want to do a Novena,
thanks in advance!

Can you not rejoice that your beloved Nan is now with Our Blessed Lord in Heaven.
She wouldn’t want you to be worrying about her. Yes of course you will always mourn her loss, but perhaps now you can begin to focus on happy memories of her. Trust in Jesus - He has her safely in His care.

God bless you.

 

[Marie5890]

Can you not rejoice that your beloved Nan is now with Our Blessed Lord in Heaven.
She wouldn’t want you to be worrying about her. Yes of course you will always mourn her loss, but perhaps now you can begin to focus on happy memories of her. Trust in Jesus - He has her safely in His care.

God bless you.

It’s always appropriate to pray for the dead and I see that is what Camkutz is asking for, prayers that they can pray for their beloved Nana.

Praying for the souls in purgatory is always appropriate and encouraged.

 

[Dorothy]

It’s always appropriate to pray for the dead and I see that is what Camkutz is asking for, prayers that they can pray for their beloved Nana.

Praying for the souls in purgatory is always appropriate and encouraged.

Amen! And if the loved one is already with the Lord the prayers can be applied to someone else who needs them.

 

[tawny]

Praying for the repose of Heather’s soul.

 

[po18guy]

**Our Father, Who art in heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Glory be to the Father,
and to the Son,
and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning,
is now,
and ever shall be,
world without end.
Amen.**

 

[Emily2014]

It’s always appropriate to pray for the dead and I see that is what Camkutz is asking for, prayers that they can pray for their beloved Nana.

Praying for the souls in purgatory is always appropriate and encouraged.

Why do you presume that their beloved Nan isn’t in Heaven? Sorry but the concept of purgatory is one to which I cannot subscribe.

 

[Sy_Noe]

Why do you presume that their beloved Nan isn’t in Heaven? Sorry but the concept of purgatory is one to which I cannot subscribe.

I believe to some extent it might depend on what we emphasize. We can emphasize the joy and peace that a faith in Christ’s love and mercy can bring. And choose in faith to believe that a loved one has arrived at the heavenly gates to a grand welcome from Jesus and others. Reunited with others who have gone before them. Rejoice in that faith and find an inner peace. Or we can spend our lives emphasizing sin and presuming they might not have not made it to heaven.

 

[MarianCatholic]

1. Why do you presume that their beloved Nan isn’t in Heaven?
2. Sorry but the concept of purgatory is one to which I cannot subscribe.

1. We cannot really know the state of our soul let alone any souls of a deceased family member. I for one do not consider myself to be a bad human being, but I know with myself that if I where to die today I wouldn’t be ready to stand in front of the The Holy God today.
   The sins I have committed in the past has left an scare on my soul that hasn’t grown yet.
   And even though I have no unconfessed mortal sins this scare needs time to heal.
   If Im able to die when it’s fully healed than Im fitted to enter heaven as a saint, but if not the rest of the healing prosess will have to find place in the Purgatory.
2. Wether you personally “buy into it” doesn’t really matter for its exciting or not.
   If I for some reason didn’t buy into the fact that America exists just because I haven’t been there yet doesn’t make America go away, nuh America would still exist, but I would be ignorant that’s all.
   So we should pray for the poor souls in purgatory to easing their time there and as any other church doctrine we are to believe in it, if not we are questioning the entire power structure in the entire Church and puts us selves over the Holy See and say that some of their teachings is incorrect. That’s Heresy for you right there!

Yours in Jesus and Mary

• MarianCatholic

 

[Marie5890]

Why do you presume that their beloved Nan isn’t in Heaven? Sorry but the concept of purgatory is one to which I cannot subscribe.

For those of us who are Catholic, praying for the souls in purgatory is always acceptable and encouraged. It is a teaching of our faith.

We have no way of knowing whether Cam’s Nana’s soul was ready to enter into heaven or . Purgatory is the Lord’s great merciful way of giving us time to further purify our souls prior to entering into His presence. I have never known anyone in this life who is or has been perfect.

We, as devout and faithful Catholics , pray for all the dead at each and every Mass that is celebrated throughout the world. Every day, at every Mass.

 

[Sy_Noe]

1. We cannot really know the state of our soul let alone any souls of a deceased family member. I for one do not consider myself to be a bad human being, but I know with myself that if I where to die today I wouldn’t be ready to stand in front of the The Holy God today.
   The sins I have committed in the past has left an scare on my soul that hasn’t grown yet.
   And even though I have no unconfessed mortal sins this scare needs time to heal.
   If Im able to die when it’s fully healed than Im fitted to enter heaven as a saint, but if not the rest of the healing prosess will have to find place in the Purgatory.
2. Wether you personally “buy into it” doesn’t really matter for its exciting or not.
   If I for some reason didn’t buy into the fact that America exists just because I haven’t been there yet doesn’t make America go away, nuh America would still exist, but I would be ignorant that’s all.
   So we should pray for the poor souls in purgatory to easing their time there and as any other church doctrine we are to believe in it, if not we are questioning the entire power structure in the entire Church and puts us selves over the Holy See and say that some of their teachings is incorrect. That’s Heresy for you right there!

Yours in Jesus and Mary

• MarianCatholic

Hi MarianCatholic and Marie, may I interject for just a moment? I’m not sure how to double quote so I hope it’s alright that I only quoted one. I don’t play the “heresy card” as MC did. And I understand the Church teaches OCAC. And with the many Catholics She claims, I know people do disagree.

But I read Emily’s post in a different light than you appear to have. I saw her words more in light of what we choose to emphasize and reflect upon actually based on the fact that we don’t know.

We can choose to emphasize the love and mercy that a faith in Christ can bring and believe with faith, hope, and charity that our loved ones have arrived at the heavenly gates to a warm welcome by Jesus with cheers from others on the arrival deck who had previously departed and who have been reunited. Much as we hope in faith we will arrive on the other side upon our departure. I actually once attended a Catholic funeral when this was the celebrant’s message of comfort.

Or we can emphasize sin and spend our lives in fear worrying if our loved ones have made it.

The first path brings a person a joy and inner peace that a faith in Christ can bring.

God’s continued blessings and peace be with you always.

 

[Marie5890]

Sy,

I do understand what you are saying.
But I do want to point out that Emily was clear that she does not believe in the dogma of Purgatory so my reply was more in light of her honesty.

With that, and going back to Cam’s original post, Cam does believe in the need to pray for our dearly departed, which is in keeping with Catholic teaching. Therefore, I found a couple of novenas and made the suggestion that she also do a google search.

There is no sin in praying for the dead. We Catholics do it all.the.time. The entire month of November is dedicated to the whole idea of it.

Whether Emily believes in Purgatory or not doesnt change the fact that it is Catholic dogma.

 

[Emily2014]

We can choose to emphasize the love and mercy that a faith in Christ can bring and believe with faith, hope, and charity that our loved ones have arrived at the heavenly gates to a warm welcome by Jesus with cheers from others on the arrival deck who had previously departed and who have been reunited. Much as we hope in faith we will arrive on the other side upon our departure. I actually once attended a Catholic funeral when this was the celebrant’s message of comfort.

Or we can emphasize sin and spend our lives in fear worrying if our loved ones have made it.

The first path brings a person a joy and inner peace that a faith in Christ can bring.

God’s continued blessings and peace be with you always.

Thank you Sy noe. I’ve watched beloved people die, many after years of suffering. There is no doubt in my mind that at the moment of death, they were with Our Lord in Heaven, forever free from all earthly suffering and in Eternal Peace. God bless you for your understanding.

 

[Marie5890]

Cam’s concern for her beloved Nana’s shouldnt be dismissed or minimized.

She was asking for prayers for her nana and for information about novena’s for the dead.

That is the purpose of her post.

I hope that does not get lost.

 

[Emily2014]

Marie, I was trying to offer her comfort -that’s all. Sorry that I deviated from the OP.
God bless you

 

[Sy_Noe]

Sy,

I do understand what you are saying.
But I do want to point out that Emily was clear that she does not believe in the dogma of Purgatory so my reply was more in light of her honesty.

With that, and going back to Cam’s original post, Cam does believe in the need to pray for our dearly departed, which is in keeping with Catholic teaching. Therefore, I found a couple of novenas and made the suggestion that she also do a google search.

There is no sin in praying for the dead. We Catholics do it all.the.time. The entire month of November is dedicated to the whole idea of it.

Whether Emily believes in Purgatory or not doesnt change the fact that it is Catholic dogma.

And I truly meant to include in my post that I understood as well that Catholics who believe in purgatory indeed do pray for souls they believe might be there. I had written it in my first draft, took too long typing and had to sign on again. Then when I rewrote, it was in my mind but didn’t get from my mind to my screen the second attempt. But I think we’re all cool. You understood me. I understood you. I understood Emily offering comfort and can understand her experience upon the moment of a beloved one’s passing. So I think I’m just going to initiate a group hug :grouphug: and leave it at that.