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So I have a question in regards to the Novus Ordo.

How was the Mass intended to be celebrated?

Was it suppose to be facing the people, or backs turned?

Latin, or Venacular?

It’s my understanding that the prayers were in Latin, while the Readings remained in English, but I’m not 100%.

Can someone explain?

Thanks.
 
As far as language goes, here is what the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy has to say:36. 1. Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites.
2. But since the use of the mother tongue, whether in the Mass, the administration of the sacraments, or other parts of the liturgy, frequently may be of great advantage to the people, the limits of its employment may be extended. This will apply in the first place to the readings and directives, and to some of the prayers and chants, according to the regulations on this matter to be laid down separately in subsequent chapters.
3. These norms being observed, it is for the competent territorial ecclesiastical authority mentioned in Art. 22, 2, to decide whether, and to what extent, the vernacular language is to be used; their decrees are to be approved, that is, confirmed, by the Apostolic See. And, whenever it seems to be called for, this authority is to consult with bishops of neighboring regions which have the same language.
4. Translations from the Latin text into the mother tongue intended for use in the liturgy must be approved by the competent territorial ecclesiastical authority mentioned above.
54. In Masses which are celebrated with the people, a suitable place may be allotted to their mother tongue. This is to apply in the first place to the readings and “the common prayer,” but also, as local conditions may warrant, to those parts which pertain to the people, according to the norm laid down in Art. 36 of this Constitution.**Nevertheless steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them. **
And wherever a more extended use of the mother tongue within the Mass appears desirable, the regulation laid down in Art. 40 of this Constitution is to be observed.

As for facing the people, I have a copy of the 1974 Sacramentary, and this is what it says in the rubrics at the start of the Communion Rite:
The priest genuflects. Taking the host, he raises it slightly over the paten and, facing the people, says aloud:

This is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world…
It hardly seems likely that there would be a need to specify that the priest faced the people at that point if it was presumed that he was facing them from the beginning. It was allowed but I don’t think Rome ever envisaged that it would become the norm.
 
So I have a question in regards to the Novus Ordo.

How was the Mass intended to be celebrated?

Was it suppose to be facing the people, or backs turned?

Latin, or Venacular?

It’s my understanding that the prayers were in Latin, while the Readings remained in English, but I’m not 100%.

Can someone explain?

Thanks.
“remained”? ❓ :confused:
 
Was it suppose to be facing the people, or backs turned?
My understanding is what Phemie said.
I never thought of it as “backs turned” until a couple of years ago when I heard someone else say it. I’ve always seen it as everyone facing the same way–toward God. The priest not “turning his back” any more than the person in the pew in front of me.🤷
 
The Divine Office is the prayer of the entire Church, for the entire Church. It is not attached to our personal feelings but is meant to put us in solidarity with the sad when we feel happy, and with the happy when we feel sad. It prayed for people in all manner of difficulty, be it on their death bed, ill, persecuted, in prison, victim of violence, victim of discrimination, jobless and lonely, etc., and that includes for clergy having difficulty meeting their obligations for whatever reason, or even for clergy wavering in their vocation.

However, it is also the prayer in support of a newlywed couple, of a newly professed monastic, of a newly ordained priest, of the person receiving a special blessing. It can be in celebration of a new graduate, someone landing a much needed or wanted job, of someone joyful in having been healed from serious illness, of having recovered from a dependency, and of all manner of good blessings that may be received.
 
Mass was celebrated facing the people for 2000 years.

Many monastic abbey Churches did it this way. The abbey church was the place where many members of the laity went to Mass.

Someone posted a picture from the front page of the newspaper where Mass was being celebrated facing the people at the Second Vatican Council.

Mass was celebrated both ways for a long, long time. It’s such a non issue. I wish people would get over it.
 
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How was the Mass intended to be celebrated?

Was it suppose to be facing the people, or backs turned?
Neither 🙂

The priest is to be facing East, the direction from which Christ is to return.

Oh, wait; you’re asking about the new Mass. First historically:

Churches were built so that both priest & congregation faced east.

In Rome itself, there is at least one major church (I forget which one) in which this has always meant that the priest faced the people–he faced east, but the people faced him. There was simply no way to place the altar other than in the west end of the church. Three (iirc) times through Mass, the people turn to face east.

The new Mass assumes the priest faces East, but allows him the option of facing the people instead. There are places in the GIRM instructing him to turn to face the people that clearly don’t apply if he already is . . .

But it has never been the case that the priest was positioned “with his back to the people”; that was just a consequence of everyone facing east as he led them.

Latin, or Venacular?

It’s my understanding that the prayers were in Latin, while the Readings remained in English, but I’m not 100%.

There was no uniformity before Trent. Some dioceses celebrated in Latin, others in the vernacular. Some used the liturgies used the liturgy used in the Dioces of Rome, others the Divine Liturgies in the east (e.g., Chyrsotom), others something local.

Trent imposed the Roman form and Latin on almost all of the west (among the exceptions was the Archdiocese of Milan, which keeps its own to this day).

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Of the 6 churches with which I’m most familiar and which are 75 years old or older, only one is oriented such that the priest would have faced East while celebrating Mass with his back to the people. Most of them are oriented North, and the 1880’s church of my Baptism is oriented West (which ironically means that not until the “table altar” was built following the Council did the priest face East while celebrating Mass facing the people). Or does this get into the difference between “true East” and “liturgical East?” And is the definition of “liturgical East” whatever direction the priest happens to be facing so long as his back is to the people?
 
Mass was celebrated facing the people for 2000 years.

Many monastic abbey Churches did it this way. The abbey church was the place where many members of the laity went to Mass.

Someone posted a picture from the front page of the newspaper where Mass was being celebrated facing the people at the Second Vatican Council.

Mass was celebrated both ways for a long, long time. It’s such a non issue. I wish people would get over it.
The tradition for a large part of the last 2000 years has been that mass was said with all participants, priest and people, facing the same direction. The symbolic significance of this action is deeply rooted in theology and, to me and many of the great theologians of the Church, seems more fitting than mass facing the people.

People aren’t going to suddenly “get over” this issue. Many people, especially a large proportion of young priests and seminarians, wish to see a gradual reintroduction to this practice.

Both forms are entirely valid and licit, but one is recognised as being more true to the liturgy.
 
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