Now, Please Help Me to Not Be the Cause of an Even Greater Sacrilege

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Hello,
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 Thank you for your time. In my parish, the lay people still do most the actions with regard to purifying the Sacred Vessels. I understand that this is not allowed. This is why I will try to get my Bishop to institute me as an acolyte. However, I have looked for authoritative rules, with regards to the purification of vessels, and have not found any so far. The water which they purify the vessels with, is poured down a utility sink, which I highly doubt is correct. I appreciate your help; I do not want to treat the Most Holy Eucharist profanely and get excommunicated.
Sincerely,
ManOfSorrows
 
The first water or wine used for purifying the vessels is consumed.

As for becoming an instituted acolyte, not every country or even every diocese will have instituted acolytes who aren’t on their way to the diaconate. Canada won’t, and I don’t think England and Wales do either.
 
Aren’t EMHC’s allowed to purify outside the context of Mass?
 
ManOfSorrows said:
Hello,
Code: 
 Thank you for your time. In my parish, the lay people still do most the actions with regard to purifying the Sacred Vessels. I understand that this is not allowed. This is why I will try to get my Bishop to institute me as an acolyte.This would have to come through your pastor, your bishop will not act on your word, a parishoner. However, I have looked for authoritative rules, with regards to the purification of vessels, and have not found any so far. The water which they purify the vessels with, is poured down a utility sink,This is not to be done.  The purification ritual is to be performed first to remove all the remaining sacred spicies then the vessells can be washed by the laity.  But the purification water or water and wine shall be consumed by the proper minister. which I highly doubt is correct. I appreciate your help; I do not want to treat the Most Holy Eucharist profanely and get excommunicated.There are other places to find rubrics, even in Canon Law.  I'll do some more research.
Sincerely,
ManOfSorrows
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The Purification (From the GIRM)
  1. Whenever a fragment of the host adheres to his fingers, especially after the fraction or the Communion of the faithful, the priest is to wipe his fingers over the paten or, if necessary, wash them. Likewise, he should also gather any fragments that may have fallen outside the paten.
  2. The sacred vessels are purified by the priest, the deacon, or an instituted acolyte after Communion or after Mass, insofar as possible at the credence table. The purification of the chalice is done with water alone or with wine and water, which is then drunk by whoever does the purification. The paten is usually wiped clean with the purificator.
Care must be taken that whatever may remain of the Blood of Christ after the distribution of Communion is consumed immediately and completely at the altar.
  1. If a host or any particle should fall, it is to be picked up reverently. If any of the Precious Blood is spilled, the area where the spill occurred should be washed with water, and this water should then be poured into the sacrarium in the sacristy.
 
Here are the references from Redemptionis Sacramentum:

Regarding the treatment of the Consecrated Species
107.] In accordance with what is laid down by the canons, “one who throws away the consecrated species or takes them away or keeps them for a sacrilegious purpose, incurs a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See; a cleric, moreover, may be punished by another penalty, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state”.194 To be regarded as pertaining to this case is any action that is voluntarily and gravely disrespectful of the sacred species. Anyone, therefore, who acts contrary to these norms, for example casting the sacred species into the sacrarium or in an unworthy place or on the ground, incurs the penalties laid down.195 Furthermore all will remember that once the distribution of Holy Communion during the celebration of Mass has been completed, the prescriptions of the Roman Missal are to be observed, and in particular, whatever may remain of the Blood of Christ must be entirely and immediately consumed by the Priest or by another minister, according to the norms, while the consecrated hosts that are left are to be consumed by the Priest at the altar or carried to the place for the reservation of the Eucharist.196
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Regarding purification:
[119.] The Priest, once he has returned to the altar after the distribution of Communion, standing at the altar or at the credence table, purifies the paten or ciborium over the chalice, then purifies the chalice in accordance with the prescriptions of the Missal and wipes the chalice with the purificator. Where a Deacon is present, he returns with the Priest to the altar and purifies the vessels. It is permissible, however, especially if there are several vessels to be purified, to leave them, covered as may be appropriate, on a corporal on the altar or on the credence table, and for them to be purified by the Priest or Deacon immediately after Mass once the people have been dismissed. Moreover a duly instituted acolyte assists the Priest or Deacon in purifying and arranging the sacred vessels either at the altar or the credence table. In the absence of a Deacon, a duly instituted acolyte carries the sacred vessels to the credence table and there purifies, wipes and arranges them in the usual way.209
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I hope this helps.
 
ManOfSorrows said:
Hello,
Code: 
 Thank you for your time. In my parish, the lay people still do most the actions with regard to purifying the Sacred Vessels. I understand that this is not allowed. This is why I will try to get my Bishop to institute me as an acolyte. However, I have looked for authoritative rules, with regards to the purification of vessels, and have not found any so far. The water which they purify the vessels with, is poured down a utility sink, which I highly doubt is correct. I appreciate your help; I do not want to treat the Most Holy Eucharist profanely and get excommunicated.
Sincerely,
ManOfSorrows
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I would let your bishop know what is going on when you are asking to be instituted an acolyte. That way, even if he doesn’t institute you, he can at least fix the problem.
 
At this moment there are only transitory instituted acolytes among those toward the priesthood. I have no information if those prepared for permanent deaconate receive this sacramental (not sacrament) or not. If you are below 40 years old, your bishop probably will be happy, hearing your commitment toward the priesthood (he will call you, if you have vocation, the previous commitment is yours).

As for purifying the vessels the rubrics were quoted.

In the good old time the sacred vessel were purified immediately during the Mass, but also further cleaned time to time by the priest, and the washing residual was spilled into the sacrarium (a special sink which empties deep to the soil). If this secondary cleaning is done by layperson and the result emptied to the regular sink, that is irreverent, but definitely not sacrilege. There are no visible particles, and only visible particles are the Body and Blood of our Lord.
 
laszlo said:
In the good old time the sacred vessel were purified immediately during the Mass, but also further cleaned time to time by the priest, and the washing residual was spilled into the sacrarium (a special sink which empties deep to the soil). If this secondary cleaning is done by layperson and the result emptied to the regular sink, that is irreverent, but definitely not sacrilege. There are no visible particles, and only visible particles are the Body and Blood of our Lord.
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Irreverent? How so? The vessels have already been purified, there is no possibility of the Sacred Species remaining, the vessels have to be washed for hygiene and also to remove any lipstick. How is it irreverent? They are not just put in with the breakfast plates and frying-pan, you know.
 
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