nudity

[billcu1]

It’s so easy to come across nudity on the internet. Even if your not looking for it. But that’s not my question. I went to confession less than a week ago and I might have to go again. I did in my imperfection look for a little nudity and came across not what I was expecting. Some pretty hard core stuff. But it was there and I looked and left the site feeling guilty. Should I go to confession? If I came across is unintentionally would I have to confess. It seems to me with nudity that lust is the key. If you can get away from it before lust pops up are you alright? I have a sports illustrated model calendar too and there’s of course no nudity. Is that alright? Where is there admiration of beauty and lust? Where’s the line?

Bill

 

[MidnightSun12]

It’s so easy to come across nudity on the internet. Even if your not looking for it. But that’s not my question. I went to confession less than a week ago and I might have to go again. I did in my imperfection look for a little nudity and came across not what I was expecting. Some pretty hard core stuff. But it was there and I looked and left the site feeling guilty. Should I go to confession? If I came across is unintentionally would I have to confess. It seems to me with nudity that lust is the key. If you can get away from it before lust pops up are you alright? I have a sports illustrated model calendar too and there’s of course no nudity. Is that alright? Where is there admiration of beauty and lust? Where’s the line?

Bill

If you accidentally viewed pornography but closed the window immediately without looking for any extended length of time, then you are OK (no mortal sin). If, however, you lingered and looked for a few seconds (even if you didn’t experience sexual arousal) then I would still go to confession. While the mortal sin of lust does require one to experience sexual pleasure, we are also required to avoid the near occaisons of sin. If you feel that you willfully consented to any amount of exposure to those images I would play it safe and just go to confession.

In my opinion, I would also consider no longer visiting those particular sites that you find put you at an elevated risk of viewing pornography accidentally. Given the dangers of mortal sin, I would take absolutely no chances here (especially if these pornographic images are in the form of pop-ups or mis-leading links that are out of your ability to filter).

God bless!

 

[billcu1]

If you accidentally viewed pornography but closed the window immediately without looking for any extended length of time, then you are OK (no mortal sin). If, however, you lingered and looked for a few seconds (even if you didn’t experience sexual arousal) then I would still go to confession. While the mortal sin of lust does require one to experience sexual pleasure, we are also required to avoid the near occaisons of sin. If you feel that you willfully consented to any amount of exposure to those images I would play it safe and just go to confession.

In my opinion, I would also consider no longer visiting those particular sites that you find put you at an elevated risk of viewing pornography accidentally. Given the dangers of mortal sin, I would take absolutely no chances here (especially if these pornographic images are in the form of pop-ups or mis-leading links that are out of your ability to filter).

God bless!

Oh I intentionally looked for nudity but didn’t get what I expected. I questioned to my priest as to whether or not softcore porn was considered a sin because the catechism mentions people in the intimate acts reserved for marriage. He replied yes all pornography was sinful. This may or may not be venial what I did I don’t know and taking mass is supposed to forgive venial sin. But then again taking mass with a mortal sin makes things worse.

In IHS

Bill

 

[themonk86]

First off God Bless you for the courage you have to seek help for this issue by posting your incident here on line for all people to see (That’s not very easy to do). I feel your are strong and I admire your desire to get answers. I’ll certainly be praying for you.

I did in my imperfection look for a little nudity and came across not what I was expecting. Some pretty hard core stuff. But it was there and I looked and left the site feeling guilty. Should I go to confession?

Yes, you should go to confession because you were looking for nudity. I would also advise you to pick one priest to go to confession and stick with going to him often. Priest are specially trained to help us deal with sins and developing this relationship with a priest will help you greatly because he will get to know you personally. See the priest as a physician and your struggle with nudity as a sickness. We go to the doctor when we are sick, so it makes since to go to the priest when we sin.

If I came across is unintentionally would I have to confess.

I would say you should still confess it but as far if it was a sin I would say no because if it was unintentional then it couldn’t be a sin because you can’t be held accountable for it. But again that’s why it’s key to have a good priest to confess to so he can tell you.

It seems to me with nudity that lust is the key. If you can get away from it before lust pops up are you alright?

When your asking this to see how much you can get away with before it becomes a sin then your already looking at this incorrectly and I would call it a sin. Again that’s why having a priest who knows you and who you see often is key to helping you with these questions.

I have a sports illustrated model calendar too and there’s of course no nudity. Is that alright? Where is there admiration of beauty and lust? Where’s the line?

Definitely get rid of the sports illustrated model calendar. Even though she is not naked ask yourself what emotions does the image arouse in you. The same concept is true of seeing women out in public who aren’t nude but may wear tight jeans or low cut tops. We as men are very visual creature and even though they aren’t naked we can still be aroused lustfully and sinfully by what they are wearing. Trust me from some one whose been there you need to get rid of all the things in your life that could temp you to sin. And whether it is soft or hard core pornography that doesn’t matter because the Catechism defines pornography like this “pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties… It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others.”

So in dealing with this issue I would definitely focus of prayer, and pray the rosary as often as u you can preferably daily, go to confession often (weekly if needed) with a priest you can develop a relationship with and he can get to know you spiritually, and go to mass often.

I hope this helps and God Bless!

 

[billcu1]

First off God Bless you for the courage you have to seek help for this issue by posting your incident here on line for all people to see (That’s not very easy to do). I feel your are strong and I admire your desire to get answers. I’ll certainly be praying for you.

Yes, you should go to confession because you were looking for nudity. I would also advise you to pick one priest to go to confession and stick with going to him often. Priest are specially trained to help us deal with sins and developing this relationship with a priest will help you greatly because he will get to know you personally. See the priest as a physician and your struggle with nudity as a sickness. We go to the doctor when we are sick, so it makes since to go to the priest when we sin.

I would say you should still confess it but as far if it was a sin I would say no because if it was unintentional then it couldn’t be a sin because you can’t be held accountable for it. But again that’s why it’s key to have a good priest to confess to so he can tell you.

When your asking this to see how much you can get away with before it becomes a sin then your already looking at this incorrectly and I would call it a sin. Again that’s why having a priest who knows you and who you see often is key to helping you with these questions.

Definitely get rid of the sports illustrated model calendar. Even though she is not naked ask yourself what emotions does the image arouse in you. The same concept is true of seeing women out in public who aren’t nude but may wear tight jeans or low cut tops. We as men are very visual creature and even though they aren’t naked we can still be aroused lustfully and sinfully by what they are wearing. Trust me from some one whose been there you need to get rid of all the things in your life that could temp you to sin. And whether it is soft or hard core pornography that doesn’t matter because the Catechism defines pornography like this “pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties… It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others.”

So in dealing with this issue I would definitely focus of prayer, and pray the rosary as often as u you can preferably daily, go to confession often (weekly if needed) with a priest you can develop a relationship with and he can get to know you spiritually, and go to mass often.

I hope this helps and God Bless!

My priest has already dealt with my pornography and assigned me marian prayers on the internet that purify. I couldn’t find anything specific with what he told me to google so I have been using the miraculous medal and asking for purity. I am also trying to distinquish betwwen mortal and venial sin because if I am correct venial sin is forgiven by the eucharist and a confession is not necessary. Though it wouldn’t hurt, why do the unecessary.

 

[Lost_Sheep]

Catechism defines pornography like this "pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties.

Using this definition, then “Whips and Chains” material would not be considered pornographic unless a “sexual act” (intercourse, fellatio, etc.) actually occurred.

 

[billcu1]

First off God Bless you for the courage you have to seek help for this issue by posting your incident here on line for all people to see (That’s not very easy to do). I feel your are strong and I admire your desire to get answers. I’ll certainly be praying for you.

Yes, you should go to confession because you were looking for nudity. I would also advise you to pick one priest to go to confession and stick with going to him often. Priest are specially trained to help us deal with sins and developing this relationship with a priest will help you greatly because he will get to know you personally. See the priest as a physician and your struggle with nudity as a sickness. We go to the doctor when we are sick, so it makes since to go to the priest when we sin.

I would say you should still confess it but as far if it was a sin I would say no because if it was unintentional then it couldn’t be a sin because you can’t be held accountable for it. But again that’s why it’s key to have a good priest to confess to so he can tell you.

When your asking this to see how much you can get away with before it becomes a sin then your already looking at this incorrectly and I would call it a sin. Again that’s why having a priest who knows you and who you see often is key to helping you with these questions.

Definitely get rid of the sports illustrated model calendar. Even though she is not naked ask yourself what emotions does the image arouse in you. The same concept is true of seeing women out in public who aren’t nude but may wear tight jeans or low cut tops. We as men are very visual creature and even though they aren’t naked we can still be aroused lustfully and sinfully by what they are wearing. Trust me from some one whose been there you need to get rid of all the things in your life that could temp you to sin. And whether it is soft or hard core pornography that doesn’t matter because the Catechism defines pornography like this “pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties… It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others.”

So in dealing with this issue I would definitely focus of prayer, and pray the rosary as often as u you can preferably daily, go to confession often (weekly if needed) with a priest you can develop a relationship with and he can get to know you spiritually, and go to mass often.

I hope this helps and God Bless!

I never say the rosary. Lazy I guess but I do say alot of marian prayers. Including the miraculous medal. I really like that one. But I was reading and studying yesterday and read that when grace is killed god doesn’t listen to you. I don’t know about that. It might be good to go to Mary and the other saints. :lightbulb:

Bill

 

[billcu1]

Well I have failed. But I have been noticing some changes though. As I have been praying to Mary for grace in purity My “lusts” have been subsiding. Now I’m not saying that I’m a raving sex maniac or anything like that but I’m human. I confess to you my brothers and sisters that I have failed through my own grevious fault. I intentionally looked for nudity on the internet and it ended in masterbation. I have anxiety and panic attacks to so there is a problem here anyway but I don’t need nudity. I saw for the first time there was a step between lust and masterbation. This all just went together for me at one time. I had been getting stronger and will continue to pray. I ask for the prayers of all. I go to confession tomorrow of this to my priest and may go before a crucifix for a partial indulgence.

Bill

 

[themonk86]

Well thats good that your priest is helping you and I hope you continue to go to him as your continue to deal with this issue.

I am also trying to distinguish between mortal and venial sin…

Now the way to distinguish mortal and venial sin is like this, the Catechism says that sins becomes mortal when three conditions are met: 1) grave matter, 2) full knowledge of the evil of the act, and 3) full consent of the will. If one of the three conditions aren’t met then the sin is venial and not mortal. Now more directly for your case I would say to ask the priest who you go to confession to if it was a mortal or venial sin. I’m going to refrain from assuming if it was mortal because 1) I’m not a priest and 2) I haven’t been trained to deal with a sensitive issue like this. I’ve been where your at and I can offer you my help and prayers.

because if I am correct venial sin is forgiven by the Eucharist and a confession is not necessary. Though it wouldn’t hurt, why do the unnecessary.

You are correct that all venial sin is forgiven when you receive the Eucharist, but all sin is also forgiven in the sacrament of confession as well. If I was you and I was struggling with if a certain sin was mortal or venial I would go to confession just to be sure. I wouldn’t call going to confession, even if it was just to confess only venial sins “unnecessary” because dealing with sin is a process and using the sacraments of the Eucharist and Penance are far more helpful when used together. You should see confession as an opportunity to go to the doctor for your spiritual well being, and just like any doctor will tell you that you shouldn’t only go to the doctor when your dying with an illness but they encourage going to them frequently. Likewise I feel this is the best attitude with confession.

But I was reading and studying yesterday and read that when grace is killed god doesn’t listen to you.

Now I don’t see that that is true, because if God didn’t listen to anyone who is in a state of mortal sin than there would be no way that a perfect act of contrition could be possible. This is what the Catechism paragraph 1452 says about perfect contrition:

“When it arises from a love by which God is loved above all else, contrition is called “perfect” (contrition of charity). Such contrition remits venial sins; it also obtains forgiveness of mortal sins if it includes the firm resolution to have recourse to sacramental confession as soon as possible.”

So this proves that God would still listen to us, even when we are in a state of mortal sin. When we commit a mortal (or even venial) sin, it includes a turning away from God. God doesn’t turn his back on us, we turn our back on God. He is a loving father who can’t wait for us to ask for forgiveness and is willing to give it unhesitatingly. I would recommend you read the parable of the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-32. This parable I feel shows how God views us as his children.

Hopes this helps and God Bless!

 

[billcu1]

Well thats good that your priest is helping you and I hope you continue to go to him as your continue to deal with this issue.

Now the way to distinguish mortal and venial sin is like this, the Catechism says that sins becomes mortal when three conditions are met: 1) grave matter, 2) full knowledge of the evil of the act, and 3) full consent of the will. If one of the three conditions aren’t met then the sin is venial and not mortal. Now more directly for your case I would say to ask the priest who you go to confession to if it was a mortal or venial sin. I’m going to refrain from assuming if it was mortal because 1) I’m not a priest and 2) I haven’t been trained to deal with a sensitive issue like this. I’ve been where your at and I can offer you my help and prayers.

You are correct that all venial sin is forgiven when you receive the Eucharist, but all sin is also forgiven in the sacrament of confession as well. If I was you and I was struggling with if a certain sin was mortal or venial I would go to confession just to be sure. I wouldn’t call going to confession, even if it was just to confess only venial sins “unnecessary” because dealing with sin is a process and using the sacraments of the Eucharist and Penance are far more helpful when used together. You should see confession as an opportunity to go to the doctor for your spiritual well being, and just like any doctor will tell you that you shouldn’t only go to the doctor when your dying with an illness but they encourage going to them frequently. Likewise I feel this is the best attitude with confession.

Now I don’t see that that is true, because if God didn’t listen to anyone who is in a state of mortal sin than there would be no way that a perfect act of contrition could be possible. This is what the Catechism paragraph 1452 says about perfect contrition:

“When it arises from a love by which God is loved above all else, contrition is called “perfect” (contrition of charity). Such contrition remits venial sins; it also obtains forgiveness of mortal sins if it includes the firm resolution to have recourse to sacramental confession as soon as possible.”

So this proves that God would still listen to us, even when we are in a state of mortal sin. When we commit a mortal (or even venial) sin, it includes a turning away from God. God doesn’t turn his back on us, we turn our back on God. He is a loving father who can’t wait for us to ask for forgiveness and is willing to give it unhesitatingly. I would recommend you read the parable of the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-32. This parable I feel shows how God views us as his children.

Hopes this helps and God Bless!

Thanks. Maybe I misspoke. It seems like maybe those words were without grace there’s really no way of pleasing god. I know that is said of faith but going to confession is an act of faith.
B