Number of Liturgies

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So, I am curious. To my knowledge the tradition is to only have on Liturgy on Sunday. However, I have heard of some Eastern Catholic parishes having multiple Liturgies on a Sunday. How is this done? Is there a dispensation required from the Bishop? Is the same Holy Table used, or are there multiple ones employed?

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In the Eastern Catholic Church its the same Holy Table. In some cases they would instead use a different Antimins or Antimension every Liturgy. In other cases, they use the same Antimins.
 
Traditionally, the simplified rule is “one altar, one oblation” or put another way, one oblation per altar. The Orthodox (both OO and EO) generally hold to that, but the OCC & ECC Churches often have multiple Masses (or DL’s or whatever term one wants to use) on a given altar to accommodate the needs of the congregation (size, linguistic reasons, etc). I don’t know about the ECC’s, but in the OCC Churches, at least, this is not something that requires a “dispensation” from the Ordinary.
 
malphono said:
Traditionally, the simplified rule is “one altar, one oblation” or put another way, one oblation per altar. The Orthodox (both OO and EO) generally hold to that, but the OCC & ECC Churches often have multiple Masses (or DL’s or whatever term one wants to use) on a given altar to accommodate the needs of the congregation (size, linguistic reasons, etc). I don’t know about the ECC’s, but in the OCC Churches, at least, this is not something that requires a “dispensation” from the Ordinary.
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Curious. Now I find myself wondering whether the OO and EO should build a new altar every week.
 
SonCatcher said:
Curious. Now I find myself wondering whether the OO and EO should build a new altar every week.
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I suppose I should have added “per day” but I really didn’t think it was necessary. Guess I was wrong about that. 🤷
 
malphono said:
I suppose I should have added “per day” but I really didn’t think it was necessary. Guess I was wrong about that. 🤷
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Such a distinction seems meaningless to me when we are speaking of the Eternal Sacrifice. 😉

Is it considered a doctrinal or disciplinarian restriction?
 
SonCatcher said:
Such a distinction seems meaningless to me when we are speaking of the Eternal Sacrifice. 😉

Is it considered a doctrinal or disciplinarian restriction?
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The reason for this comes from the desire for the Parish family to share in one Eucharistic meal.
 
ciero said:
The reason for this comes from the desire for the Parish family to share in one Eucharistic meal.
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So it’s populist? That hardly warrants separate tables for those parishes which have multiple liturgies out of pastoral necessity, IMO.

FWIW, I do understand that having a single liturgy, when possible, can greatly improve parish life and community. An inner part of me does indeed desire for the whole parish to gather at one time whenever possible. (In about 2 weeks our new pastor will be installed and a barbecue will follow - that’s about as close as we’ll get, I’m afraid)
 
SonCatcher said:
So it’s populist? That hardly warrants separate tables for those parishes which have multiple liturgies out of pastoral necessity, IMO.

FWIW, I do understand that having a single liturgy, when possible, can greatly improve parish life and community. An inner part of me does indeed desire for the whole parish to gather at one time whenever possible. (In about 2 weeks our new pastor will be installed and a barbecue will follow - that’s about as close as we’ll get, I’m afraid)
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Once again it’s all about making it easier to be a Christian…dumb things down…make it shorter…make it more convenient. Don’t make things to make better Christians, just make things easier. :mad:
 
ciero said:
Once again it’s all about making it easier to be a Christian…dumb things down…make it shorter…make it more convenient. Don’t make things to make better Christians, just make things easier. :mad:
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:confused:
 
ciero said:
Show me a Byzantine Catholic church in the US that really “needs” more then one Liturgy…
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America is a harsh mistress. She works her people hard and many have difficulty making it to a reasonably scheduled liturgy.

Then again, there’s usually a Latin parish nearby…
 
Yes, if one can take the Novus Ordo over the Byzantine Liturgy . . .

After attending one of your guitar Masses, I’m done with the Latin Church for good.

The UGCC allows for multiple Liturgies at the same altar and I don’t know of any parish that would not allow that.

Alex
 
Alexander_Roman said:
Yes, if one can take the Novus Ordo over the Byzantine Liturgy . . .

After attending one of your guitar Masses, I’m done with the Latin Church for good.

The UGCC allows for multiple Liturgies at the same altar and I don’t know of any parish that would not allow that.

Alex
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St Elias?
 
ciero said:
St Elias?
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I think the other issue is that most parishes can do only one Liturgy per Sunday but because many people prefer one language over another, the parish have to do two Liturgies just to satisfy the crowd who wants a Liturgy in the mother tongue.

St. Elias has already proclaimed that they are doing English-only. Although I have seen them schedule some Ukrainian-only services during Feast Days.

Most other parishes would still have the crowd that wants Ukrainian-only Liturgies. Some are even totally opposed to an English-only Liturgy even if they would be offered a Ukrainian-only Liturgy on another schedule.
 
Alexander_Roman said:
Yes, if one can take the Novus Ordo over the Byzantine Liturgy . . .

After attending one of your guitar Masses, I’m done with the Latin Church for good.

The UGCC allows for multiple Liturgies at the same altar and I don’t know of any parish that would not allow that.

Alex
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One in such a position as to attend an “unlovely” liturgy out of necessity can still offer up his suffering as a means of more perfectly joining himself to our Lord.
 
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