Nuns and Outward Appearances

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I would love to be a nun in an order that wears the habit all the way down to their feet. Why be a nun, if you don’t want to look like one? I think it fosters vocations, too, to see their presence in the community. As a Lady of Charity, I can do many outward works for people, but it doesn’t have the same impact as a nun, even one who is cloistered and prays for everyone.
 
I’m actually looking forward to not worrying about all that in religious life. Wearing a veil (not fixing your hair), no makeup, no shopping for all kinds of clothes, wearing sensible shoes sounds pretty freeing to me! It just shows that our husband loves us for what’s on the inside!

-Jeanne
I completely agree with you on that one.
 
The founders who elected to have habit for their communities were responding to something. It’s important to know this. If there is not a knowledge of history, then there is a danger of falling into minimalism. You reduce the use of the habit to something that is an over simplification. This is what often happens here on CAF. The habit is reduced to “the visible symbol of consecrated life” or “a sign of being proud to be a religious” or “a bridal dress”.

These ideas are not bad in and of themselves. But they are over simplifications of what the founder had in mind when he or she chose the habit. The person who wants to promote the use of the habit would do well to study the history of the different types of communities and what the founders had in mind. They should become familiar with the mission and vision of the founder, not just with the habit. The habit does not tell you much about the founder or about the life that the person who wears it or does not wear it. The history is important.

If I don’t understand why Mother Teresa chose a sari and not a tunic and veil, I won’t truly appreciate the habit of the Missionaries of Charity. But when I know that Jesus specifically said that he did not want European sisters, that he wanted Indian sisters, then I have much more to think about. This begs the question. “Why did Jesus not want European sisters? Why did he insist on Indian sisters and why did he choose to send Indian sisters to Europe and to the Americas?” This kind of question takes the focus from the habit and points us to contemplate something much deeper, that being, God’s plan. God had a plan when he chose Indian sisters. He wanted to give a gift to the world and it was going to come from India. India was going to make its mark on Catholicism.

This is important, because the Church in India is one of the original Churches founded by the Apostles and yet a forgotten Church. Maybe, just maybe, this is Christ’s way of saving Indian Christianity.

The same holds true for other habits. Some were inspired by the Holy Spirit for a very specific purpose. This begs another question. “What is that purpose?” This is where we go back to the founders. The founders will tell us the purpose. Then, it’s up to their sons and daughters to do whatever it takes to achieve that purpose. They may include their original habit, a modified version of the same or no habit at all. Do you see what I’m saying? The purpose is what is important. The habit becomes a means to achieve a purpose.

A long black pleated skirt may be only one way of achieving that purpose. But maybe that purpose can be achieved by a short blue jumper. To determine this, each religious community must go back to its roots and search for its purpose. Once you find that purpose, you’ll know what your outward symbol should be.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Thank you, Brother, for this enlightening piece. It has enlightened me.

God Bless!
 
I would love to find an Order that will let me keep my hair long (it’s taken 20 years to grow it out!), but when I find the right one, I won’t care.
I think the Dominican Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist allow you to grow out your hair.
 
Dominicans are not bound to a life of poverty. The vow of poverty that a Dominican makes is not the same as that which is made by a Missionary of Charity or by a Franciscan.]]

It is probably more accurate to say that Dominicans live a form of religious poverty but not that of Franciscans. It is not the same as that of Benedictines either, or Trappists, or Augustinians, or Carthusians, for instance, but religious poverty comes in various forms.

Some would say that diocesan hermits are not living lives of poverty either because, despite their vow, they are required to support themselves, provide for insurance, education and ongoing formation, retreat, food, rent, clothing, etc etc etc including burial expenses, etc — sometimes with a cession of administration, and sometimes not depending upon the diocese. However, all the Dominicans I know live lives of poverty and are bound to do so by vow.
 
I would love to be a nun in an order that wears the habit all the way down to their feet. Why be a nun, if you don’t want to look like one? I think it fosters vocations, too, to see their presence in the community. As a Lady of Charity, I can do many outward works for people, but it doesn’t have the same impact as a nun, even one who is cloistered and prays for everyone.
My habit is right down to the ground and often I hold it while I walk, especially up stairs or escalators.
 
I give very little thought to outward appearances. If the Order does God’s work, helping the sick and the poor, being responsible stewards of God’s creation, and working for peace and justice, I don’t give a flying rat’s patootie what they do or don’t wear,as far as clothes, makeup, hairstyles, etc.

I would love to find an Order that will let me keep my hair long (it’s taken 20 years to grow it out!), but when I find the right one, I won’t care.

Miz
I made my final vows last month and my hair was cut off then. Our order has a tradition (though we are quite “new” as an order!) that when you take your final vows your hair is cut off and put by the altar in the chapel as a gift to your new Husband. Before this, you are only required to keep your hair clean and unnoticeable under your veil. The length of it is up to you as long as it does not mean you need extra time to dress or to bathe.
 
In the Franciscan tradition we never had the custom of shaving the sister’s heads. They wore short hair as a matter of convenience. In the summer, a coif and veil can be quite hot and your hair smells funny.

There is a custom of cutting the hair at the time of investiture, which takes place when you begin your novitiate. The hair is cut as short as any other woman would wear it in the outside world. St. Clare never had a strict rule on this or habits. She was very flexible. She left these things up to the abbess to decide according to local custom, needs and the likes and dislikes of the nuns. You’ll see Poor Clares in long habits, short habits, no habits and with short hair or long hair or covered hair. I know a Poor Clare that wears a traditional habit, but has a braid down to her waste under her coif. When she takes off her coif, she has beautiful hair.

The regulations depend on the customs of the community. For the enclosed communities, there are no common norms. Each monastery is autonomous. The apostolic communities have common statutes called constitutions, but most do not mention the hair. They’ll mention simplicity in dress or describe the habit, etc.

All this talk about hair reminds me that I need a haircut. 😃

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I would love to be a nun in an order that wears the habit all the way down to their feet. Why be a nun, if you don’t want to look like one? I think it fosters vocations, too, to see their presence in the community. As a Lady of Charity, I can do many outward works for people, but it doesn’t have the same impact as a nun, even one who is cloistered and prays for everyone.
But how do we know what a nun or sister is supposed to look like? 🙂 I love to see religious in a habit. I do believe it is a form of a visible witness. That said, other posters have made excellent posts illustrating why a religious or an order may choose not to wear a habit. I believe that a religious is more than their habit. Their interior life and relationship with God is what will speak volumes (and loudly) to those of us on the outside.
 
I’m afraid I dont believe any thing that Sister Leocadia has said. I suspect she isn’t a sister and furthermore I suspect that she has more than one ID and I’m happy to be reported to the moderators as I can prove it
 
I’m afraid I dont believe any thing that Sister Leocadia has said. I suspect she isn’t a sister and furthermore I suspect that she has more than one ID and I’m happy to be reported to the moderators as I can prove it
A couple of years ago we and some others contacted this person via a weblog she had with a view to visiting her and her Order as we would be nearby. Someone we knew was very interested in entering maybe She first claimed the convent was very hard to find, then that they never saw visitors and were not accepting visitors and refused to give the address or name of her superior. The weblog vanished and I think all her posts are very old now? Very sad indeed . Pray for her please. There was so much in her post etc that just did not gel
 
Will someone please tell me why a woman or for that matter a nun should look dumpy and unattractive. I believe that one should be all that they can be. These people who want to have women look like fundamentalists make me want to scream. Nothing is wrong with make-up, perfume or jewelry. This is 2010!!! Besides some people just don’t look good in black! God made the world wih color everywhere. Do these people want nuns to wear a burka?
Actually at my uni, (where I used to go), I would so often admire the muslim women for their colour coordination - ie. they would often have the most beautiful fabrics for their head wrap (not burka I believe = no face covering) which was occasionally coordinated with their body wrap (ie same material). It often looked very nice; I was occasionally thinking I mightn’t mind wearing one… but that would give the wrong impression! But scarves are nice!

I don’t like the blacks and dark blues either - so drab.

I have often admired nuns, especially young ones, for their ability to give up so many of the things women so often love - eg. jewellery, earrings, bling!, clothes, makeup, hair do’s, and of course = shoes!!! I believe it is a gift they have been given from God, to be able to forgo these things.

Personally I do not wear them in order to look appealing to the opposite sex, I just love them so much for what they are. Vanity… Maybe a third Order then?
 
I’m afraid I dont believe any thing that Sister Leocadia has said. I suspect she isn’t a sister and furthermore I suspect that she has more than one ID and I’m happy to be reported to the moderators as I can prove it
Could be an Orthodox or Anglican order; her name does not on the list state what religion she is.
 
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