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Does the church still except “nuns”?
Is their still a “calling” like the priests?
Does the Church support the new nuns like they did long ago?
 
except them from what? consecrated women in religious life must obey the vows of their order. yes there are still many religious orders for women, and many of them have new, young women entering all the time. There is a discernment retreat for women 18-35 going on at our monastery this weekend, and there are 3 women in residence as postulants. I am not sure I understand the question. If you visit the proper forum, vocations, you will find much more information about religious orders for women. Their vocation is just that, consecrated religious life, not the priesthood. Since Christ ordained only men to the priesthood, it is not possible for a woman to have that vocation. The topic of the priesthood and the sacrament of ordination is discussed on the liturgy and sacraments forum.

I don’t know what you mean by support. Typically a community is supported by the work of its members, and often by donations as well.
 
KathyCatholic said:
Does the church still except “nuns”?
Is their still a “calling” like the priests?
Does the Church support the new nuns like they did long ago?
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No. Nuns aren’t permitted in the church anymore. Vatican II did away with all that nonsense.
 
One thing that I’m particuarly angry with “the Spirit of Vatican II” about, is the collapse of women’s orders in the United States. The Catholic infrastructure of pre-Vatican II America was supported by the work of teaching sisters, nursing sisters, and cloistered nuns. After Vatican II, when all these feminist “nuns” felt a need to to advocate for “women’s ordination” makes me angry because their traditional apostolates were so important to the Church and to society as a whole.:mad: Looking at orders like the Dominican Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist make me optimistic for the future. Hopefully, there will be more TLM women’s orders established soon. I don’t think we can reinvigorate Catholic culture without more nuns.
 
KathyCatholic said:
Does the church still except “nuns”?
Is their still a “calling” like the priests?
Does the Church support the new nuns like they did long ago?
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Yes, yes, yes.
The problem is that some orders became liberalized and some individuals may even downplay the vocation to religious life. But that’s is not the Church.

Now, why are you asking? Haven you never seen a young nun? :eek:
 
Sorry b’out the type O.

So why is the church is favored or the “mens calling” but not the “womens calling”. I am guessing it has to do with money?

And why such stupid attitudes? :
No. Nuns aren’t permitted in the church anymore. Vatican II did away with all that nonsense.

When I went to Catholic school there were lots of nuns in out school and church and now the same school has NONE? It just got me thinking… why are men needed and women are not?🤷
 
In the 1960’s a typical woman’s job was that of teacher, librarian, or nurse. Today women work in all fields. The same holds true for nuns who may be doctors, veternarians, social workers, counsellors, psychiatrists, or any other number of different “careers” in which they live their vocation. The actual documents of Vatican II address many of the shortcomings within religious communities and how these communities might more fully live their calling in the modern world.
Growing up I wanted to be a nun simply so that I could become a teacher. This is the wrong reason. The right reason is to follow Christ wherever He might lead. When I considered becoming a recreational therapist, my thought was “this is something I can do as a nun.” I now had the right reason although there are other impediments to my following a religious vocation.
 
KathyCatholic said:
Sorry b’out the type O.

So why is the church is favored or the “mens calling” but not the “womens calling”. I am guessing it has to do with money?

And why such stupid attitudes? :
No. Nuns aren’t permitted in the church anymore. Vatican II did away with all that nonsense.

When I went to Catholic school there were lots of nuns in out school and church and now the same school has NONE? It just got me thinking… why are men needed and women are not?🤷
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It’s not a matter of needing men more than women. The number of vocations to the clergy and religious life are down in general. There are exceptions to this - orthodox seminaries and convents/monastaries are bursting at the seams in many places.

The average age of the Sisters here is, IIRC, around 73. The Orders in my diocese have attached themselves to a lot of heterodox teaching and practice. This is not attractive to young women who have a vocation.
 
Before somebody else goes into sematics, this might be a good place to bring it up. Generally speaking a nun lives a contemplative life within a convent or cloister while those with an active vocation are called sisters. However, most of us refer to women in religious life as nuns whether their vocation is contemplative or active. I just wanted to bring this up in order to avoid any unnecessary disputes. If we agree that nuns can be refer to either the active or contemplative vocation, we will avoid going off thread.
 
Both are needed, it is just that those who support womens ordination kind of poo poo on regular nuns like they are not so important. Womens religious are extremely important and are a noble, holy way of fulfilling a service to God. What is wrong with being a Mother Theresa why not promote it and dedicate your live to Christ in that way or a similar way?

It is such an admirable thing when I see a woman who has dedicated her life to Christ and is a witness to it by becoming a religious sister or nun. I saw a sister at Mass a few days ago and it was interesting how people were drawn to her, because of her witness to Christ. Inside everyone recognizes this as something special she is doing and this should be supported\encouraged.

God Bless
Scylla
 
KathyCatholic said:
Does the church still except “nuns”?
Is their still a “calling” like the priests?
Does the Church support the new nuns like they did long ago?
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Try a GOOGLE search on “contemplative nuns”. Plenty of those still around. 🙂
 
KathyCatholic said:
Sorry b’out the type O.

So why is the church is favored or the “mens calling” but not the “womens calling”. I am guessing it has to do with money?

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I’m going to try to answer this question, and y’all can tell me if I’m right.

I understand why nuns cannot be priests. It has to do not only with the fact that Jesus only ordained men but also for some other reason having to do with the transubstantiation during the Liturgy of the Eucharist. (My priest explained it well, but I’m trying to make this short, so I won’t even try.) That’s all well and good, but the practical matter remains that Catholics must go to Mass and nuns and lay people, for that matter, cannot say Mass. Therefore, there may be a disproportionate emphasis put on the ordination of men to the priesthood. This isn’t exactly fair, but I’m guessing that’s the way it is.

Tracy
 
Tracyms1974 said:
I’m going to try to answer this question, and y’all can tell me if I’m right.

I understand why nuns cannot be priests. It has to do not only with the fact that Jesus only ordained men but also for some other reason having to do with the transubstantiation during the Liturgy of the Eucharist. (My priest explained it well, but I’m trying to make this short, so I won’t even try.) That’s all well and good, but the practical matter remains that Catholics must go to Mass and nuns and lay people, for that matter, cannot say Mass. Therefore, there may be a disproportionate emphasis put on the ordination of men to the priesthood. This isn’t exactly fair, but I’m guessing that’s the way it is.

Tracy
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The priesthood is visible. Jesus broke the societal rules of his time with the number of women that followed Him. It is the women, not the men (except John) who remained with Jesus along the Via Delorosa. Men ordained to priesthood need the special graces that come from the Sacrament of Holy Orders. They act in persona of Jesus Christ when administering the Sacraments and leading Mass.
All of us are called to fully participate in the Mass, even if this is not a visible leadership role. That in no way means that the role that women, either lay or religious, play in building the kingdom of God is unimportant. Very often it has been women religious who have noticed inequalities and addressed various social issues. This includes teaching girls how to read and providing medical care even during times of greater suppression concerning the role of women in society. Women provide much of the care that (paraphasing Scripture) the Apostles could not do because in so doing they could not do the work to which they were called, that is preaching the Word of God.
 
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