Nuptial Mass followed by non-Catholic ceremony?

[1ke]

This can’t be the case universally. There are many places where a Catholic ceremony means nothing legally.

Yes, it is the case universally. A couple who marries outside Catholic form without dispensation attempts marriage invalidly. Two Catholics cannot receive such a dispensation, only a Catholic marrying a non-Catholic.

In countries where couples must be married civilly in a separate ceremony, they are not validly married until they present themselves to the Church and exchang consent in the Catholic form| (unless it is a mixed marriage in which the Catholic has received a dispensation from form).

Therefore, they are not to live together between the civil registration and the Catholic ceremony. In most cases, the two ceremonies are separated by a number of hours, possibly a day or two and no more. This is all covered with the couple during premarital preparation.

Again, citation? This contradicts the information I’ve had previously.

The Catechism.

 

[Vico]

Scandal exists when an act:

1. directly induces another to do a thing which he cannot do without sin, either formal or material. It is not allowed to profit by the ignorance of another to induce him to commit what is forbidden.
2. is evil in itself which will be an occasion of sin to another.
3. is evil only in appearance, which will be an occasion of sin to another, unless there be sufficient reason to act and to permit the fault of another.
4. is sinful neither in itself nor in appearance, but which is nevertheless the occasion of sin to another, unless there be sufficient reason to act otherwise.

We must avoid scandalizing the weak if we can do so easily.

 

[DarkLight]

Yes, it is the case universally. A couple who marries outside Catholic form without dispensation attempts marriage invalidly. Two Catholics cannot receive such a dispensation, only a Catholic marrying a non-Catholic.

In countries where couples must be married civilly in a separate ceremony, they are not validly married until they present themselves to the Church and exchang consent in the Catholic form| (unless it is a mixed marriage in which the Catholic has received a dispensation from form).

Therefore, they are not to live together between the civil registration and the Catholic ceremony. In most cases, the two ceremonies are separated by a number of hours, possibly a day or two and no more. This is all covered with the couple during premarital preparation.

You keep answering why it would be forbidden to do something I’ve never mentioned doing. I’ve never talked about someone refusing a Catholic wedding. You keep jumping back to that topic on your own.

 

[Pitcharan]

… Would it be allowable in this case for a couple to have a private wedding Mass, followed by a non-Catholic “wedding” ceremony? …

Depends on what you call ceremony. Vatican-II clearly encourages inculturisation and many ceremonial customs have more to do with culture rather than religion. I am not aware of any ‘catholic ceremony’ and even if called so, they are mere western cultures. Eg. exchanging rings.