NY Times Magazine: The New Abortion Providers

[dragonlady9947]

I have a solution to all this crp. STOP HAVING SX. Women should just stop it. Don’t get married - devote your life to anything but the marriage indentured servitude. It is guys that claim they need s*x not women. Abstinence for all women. We would be happier, able to devote our lives to good works. No abortions, no slavery

 

[Manny_DeStefano]

Dragonlady, I believe that you are applying a sledgehammer where a tack hammer will suffice. Assuredly, abstinance outside of marriage would go a very long way toward obeying God’s Commandment and reducing the number of babies. If only we could follow His 10 simple rules! But then, Adam had only 1 rule, and he broke that.

 

[kinja]

Which is exactly how abortion on dermand was opposed on this country.

I agree bob. Just like homosexuality it public life a small minority has been using undercover marketing to peddle morally wrong behaviour and actions as right, and the acceptance of same as good and progressive. When most people learn what abortion really is (as excellently described and discussed by the likes of Fr. Pavone on youtube) they realise how barbaric, cruel and inhumane it really is.

We must pray that God softens the hearts of those who partake and support this sinful act in Jesus’ mighty name.

 

[dragonlady9947]

No Manny: I think all the s*x should stop. Women bear the brunt of the indentured servitude of marriage. Men make all the rules (including the ‘Hitler Youth’ pope). Women basically are for producing the population to get killed in war and to populate what is left of the world. And when they can no longer produce, they can sweep the church and put out flowers for funerals. Yahoo. Why can’t women be free? To think, to travel, to enjoy life, to serve?

Women are not respected in the Church and in this country. They do not get medical care if they go to a Catholic Hospital. There is a woman who was miscarrying and when she was brought to the hospital, they waited until she was hemorrhaging so badly, her eyes turned red. Why - because she was miscarrying and losing the baby but the barbaric Catholic Hospital determined that to help her would constitute an abortion. A baby dies inside the mother and she cannot get any help- that would be an abortion. What - her body will absorb the dead baby?

The best thing women can do is forget s*x at all. We don’t need it.

 

[Manny_DeStefano]

Dragonlady - marital intimacy is a great gift from God. For 35 years, I have shared the sacrement of marriage with my wife. Genesis teaches that woman was made from a part of man and therefore they are equal. Marriage fulfills that equality and establishes a blessing that practically defies verbal desciption. You appear to be an angry person. Not good for your health. Celabacy may be suitable for some, but thankfully not for all, as we would be an extinct species were such the norm. I wish you the peace of Jesus Christ.

 

[ALLGIRLS]

No Manny: I think all the s*x should stop. Women bear the brunt of the indentured servitude of marriage. Men make all the rules (including the ‘Hitler Youth’ pope). Women basically are for producing the population to get killed in war and to populate what is left of the world. And when they can no longer produce, they can sweep the church and put out flowers for funerals. Yahoo. Why can’t women be free? To think, to travel, to enjoy life, to serve?

Women are not respected in the Church and in this country. They do not get medical care if they go to a Catholic Hospital. There is a woman who was miscarrying and when she was brought to the hospital, they waited until she was hemorrhaging so badly, her eyes turned red. Why - because she was miscarrying and losing the baby but the barbaric Catholic Hospital determined that to help her would constitute an abortion. A baby dies inside the mother and she cannot get any help- that would be an abortion. What - her body will absorb the dead baby?

The best thing women can do is forget s*x at all. We don’t need it.

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF! I love my husband, I love making love with him, and my marriage is NOT “indentured servitude”. Our sex life has enabled us to be co-creators with God of 5 eternal souls (encased in wonderful kids! ).

Your attitude is that of a Shaker. Go join that cult. It’s obvious you have issues with the Catholic Church (“Hitler Youth Pope”? You forgot to mention “child molesting priests” ). Nobody’s forcing you to remain Catholic.

In Christ (Who elevated MARRIAGE to a SACRAMENT),

Ellen

 

[Sherry_G]

Hoo hah, here comes the Nazis again! Nuremberg trials and all that. Amazing how anti-abortion types feel the need to drag in this sort of irrelevent arguement.:tsktsk::tsktsk::tsktsk:

Reality cheque. In most of the developed world, abortion is legal, pure and simple. You may not like this, but it does mean one thing that you have overlooked.

What court would you plan to have the proposed trials in, and where are you going to find the Judges and Jurors?

You must be joking, right??? Anti-abortion types??? We are ALL anti-abortion types who hold the Catholic faith. Civilly legal does not equate to morally right.

 

[liebee]

All this talk about abortion!!! Yes it’s a grave sin but so is fornication!

No fornication - no abortion.

Most wanting abortions are unmarried kids. Not a married woman.

Why do you think PP is giving out condoms to kids in the 5-6 grade and even younger?
Why do you think the NRA has given our schools sex education under health?
Both of those groups are straight from the devil. They know condoms are not going to prevent pregnancy and that means more business (and a lot of income) for them.

Fornication is a ho hum event anymore. Where is sin? Where has it gone? Even the good priests who don’t see confessionals visited anymore are asking that question.

And while we are talking about sexual sin have you ever thought about what gay sex is? It’s mutual masterbation. That’s the main reason it is wrong. AND so is contraception - mutual masterbation. Anytime you shut the Lord out of the act, which should be love and not just a pleasurable act, and you shut out the possibility of a gift from God of a new body for Him to give a soul, you have sinned.

Let’s start discriminating!! Let’s not treat those who are just living together as one of us. It is a grave sin. It was not tolerated just 70 short years ago. We must start teaching our young and denouncing their sin. Bing Crosby who was a very devote catholic, said in an interview, if any of his kids did that he would never speak to them again. The interviewer ask “even if they straighted up?” He said yes - never.

 

[pbmd]

I read this article with great sadness when it appeared in the Times last week. It was poor investigative reporting- shameless in its leanings toward the pro-abortion side. The saddest part to me was the emphasis on Emily Godfrey’s quote referring to herself as “a Catholic girl”. She may be sadly unaware that as a result of her actions regarding abortion, she has effectively excommunicated herself. The article uses this quote to reinforce the notion The Times has that the Church is deeply divided over abortion, where in reality it is not; the position of the Church is quite clear on the matter. Godfrey is in need of our prayers that she and others of the same mindset will realize the error of their thoughts and actions, and return to be in communion with Christ’s Church.

 

[MariaTS]

Trust me, we could have a national trial for crimes against God and humanity running in three months maximum, prison cells and gallows included. .

Let’s just stick with crimes against humanity. Sending people to jail because of what someone believes is a crime against God, that is simply inhumane.

 

[MariaTS]

I read this article with great sadness when it appeared in the Times last week. It was poor investigative reporting- shameless in its leanings toward the pro-abortion side. The saddest part to me was the emphasis on Emily Godfrey’s quote referring to herself as “a Catholic girl”. She may be sadly unaware that as a result of her actions regarding abortion, she has effectively excommunicated herself. The article uses this quote to reinforce the notion The Times has that the Church is deeply divided over abortion, where in reality it is not; the position of the Church is quite clear on the matter. Godfrey is in need of our prayers that she and others of the same mindset will realize the error of their thoughts and actions, and return to be in communion with Christ’s Church.

Do you know what reasons this woman has for supporting abortion? I support abortion in instances when the mother will die in childbirth or the baby is already dead, there are no other circumstances where I will support abortion. Unfortunately, many people in this country support abortion no matter the situation.

 

[liebee]

There have been many instances when a doctor tells a mother she will die in childbirth or that the child will be handicapped and they are wrong. Doctors aren’t God. But if a person does not really believe God will help them - He won’t!

 

[pbmd]

Dr Godfrey not only supports abortion, she performs them. She does this in a clinic, and the article implies that these are elective procedures- i.e, no immediate danger to the life of the mother,etc. According to the article, the only qualm she has regarding abortion is performing later-term procedures. My major concern is that not only is she performing abortions, but claiming she is a Catholic in the article. She doesn’t seem to realize,as do many, that this is an excommunicable action.

 

[dixieagle]

Do you know what reasons this woman has for supporting abortion? I support abortion in instances when the mother will die in childbirth or the baby is already dead, there are no other circumstances where I will support abortion. Unfortunately, many people in this country support abortion no matter the situation.

If the baby is already dead, it is not an abortion.

 

[dixieagle]

Dr Godfrey not only supports abortion, she performs them. She does this in a clinic, and the article implies that these are elective procedures- i.e, no immediate danger to the life of the mother,etc. According to the article, the only qualm she has regarding abortion is performing later-term procedures. My major concern is that not only is she performing abortions, but claiming she is a Catholic in the article. She doesn’t seem to realize,as do many, that this is an excommunicable action.

I saw this article when it came out, and also thought “if she really thinks she is still a ‘Catholic girl’, she is very sadly mistaken.”

 

[presidentjlh]

I saw this article when it came out, and also thought “if she really thinks she is still a ‘Catholic girl’, she is very sadly mistaken.”

If I’m correct, not only is a potentially excommunicable, it’s automatic excommunication.

 

[elts1956]

Hoo hah, here comes the Nazis again! Nuremberg trials and all that. Amazing how anti-abortion types feel the need to drag in this sort of irrelevent arguement
Reality cheque. In most of the developed world, abortion is legal, pure and simple. You may not like this, but it does mean one thing that you have overlooked.

What court would you plan to have the proposed trials in, and where are you going to find the Judges and Jurors?

“What court would you plan to have the proposed trials in, and where are you going to find the Judges and Jurors?:hmmm”

Nowhere in this society. Does that tell you something? Fifty or sixty years ago, they could possibly have been found, also a place to hold the trial. But no more. We have gone over the edge.

 

[elts1956]

Hoo hah, here comes the Nazis again! Nuremberg trials and all that. Amazing how anti-abortion types feel the need to drag in this sort of irrelevent arguement.:tsktsk::tsktsk::tsktsk:

Reality cheque. In most of the developed world, abortion is legal, pure and simple. You may not like this, but it does mean one thing that you have overlooked.

What court would you plan to have the proposed trials in, and where are you going to find the Judges and Jurors?

I make no pretense that what I propose would be done under the current constitutional framework. The present system is what has allowed the disgraceful state of affairs we see today. Therefore, it should be scrapped. As Thomas Jefferson said, “Every generation needs a new revolution.” That may be hyperbole, but I think the US is now overdue. In fact, I believe revolutionary change is now inevitable because the system does not allow meaningful changes by ordinary means, and when it does happen, at least for a while, all the legal niceties you mentioned will become immaterial. The only question is if the change will take us towards a true Christian (that is to say, Catholic) society. I pray that with God’s help it will be.

If the Constituion was adhered to by the progressives AND the conservatives, we wouldn’t need a radical revolution. What we need is a revolution in thinking and carrying out what our forefathers intended when the Constitution was written. They had great faith in mankind. I think they would be greatly disappointed in us today.

 

[fkjuliano]

If the Constituion was adhered to by the progressives AND the conservatives, we wouldn’t need a radical revolution. What we need is a revolution in thinking and carrying out what our forefathers intended when the Constitution was written. They had great faith in mankind. I think they would be greatly disappointed in us today.

We are going off topic by discussing the Constitution in depth. So I shall be brief. The idea that the authors wanted to guarantee abortion in the Constitution is preposterous. Roe v. Wade is the most corrupt court decision in the worldwide history of jurisprudence. However, in a way the authors are at fault because the U.S. Constitution is very vague compared to those of other countries, thus leaving too much room for absurd rulings by activist judges.

 

[kinja]

We are going off topic by discussing the Constitution in depth. So I shall be brief. The idea that the authors wanted to guarantee abortion in the Constitution is preposterous. Roe v. Wade is the most corrupt court decision in the worldwide history of jurisprudence. However, in a way the authors are at fault because the U.S. Constitution is very vague compared to those of other countries, thus leaving too much room for absurd rulings by activist judges.

Yes the authors did include vague language in the constitution. It is not entirely true to say that they would have been ashamed of us as some seem to believe. Many of them were freemasons and the ideology and worldview of that organisation is a whole discussion in and of itself. I think that the reason that the ethical reality of abortion is even an issue is because the people who support the abortion industry have their eyes set on specific worldwide goals. The Goergia Guidestones is a good place to start understanding where those who hold power want the world heading.

The world is being moved toward a centralized global government. This is not a conspiracy theory or an idea for a spy novel. This goal has been stated and restated by powerful men for more than 20 years now. From Presidents to oil tycoons to world bankers, in UN meetings as well as by other powerful businessmen at meetings on commerce and economics. “One world” is the mantra (one world under man NOT God) and revisiting the tower of Babel is the goal. Recently Trinidad and Tobago had an election and the in her inaugural speech to the nation the new prime minister quoted Genesis 11. Scary that she left out how God punished the people for uniting under man and not obeying His command.

One of the ideals is to reduce population. THe UN is very invloved internationally in peddling abortion and contraception initiatives to the third world in particular to this end. “The less people we have to feed is the more luxury the rest of us can live in” is the whole idea. Is it a philosophy of greed and disregard for the sactity of human life.