Obama: Reduce Abortions by Honoring Pro-Abortion Decision

[juliee]

Washington, DC – President Barack Obama used the occasion of the thirty-sixth anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision to issue a contradictory statement. The new president called for reducing abortions but honored the radical decision that ushered in an era of 50 million abortions and virtually no limits.

Obama praised the Supreme Court for issuing what has been one of the most condemned rulings in its history.

Full story: LifeNews.com/nat4774.html

 

[manualman]

That’s been his strategy all along: pay cheap lip service to pro-lifers while taking action to 1.)fund abortion with tax money 2.) ensure no further legal restrictions whatsoever are placed on abortion, 3.) place pro-abortion judges in the SC, 4.) FOCA (whole subject of its own).

 

[ProVobis]

Speaking of contradictions, wasn’t it the Republican Party that pushed and got Roe vs Wade? But now everyone is buying their “pro-life” position? I don’t.

 

[LRThunder]

Speaking of contradictions, wasn’t it the Republican Party that pushed and got Roe vs Wade? But now everyone is buying their “pro-life” position? I don’t.

How did the Republicans pushed for Roe v Wade?

 

[mpi]

Speaking of contradictions, wasn’t it the Republican Party that pushed and got Roe vs Wade? But now everyone is buying their “pro-life” position? I don’t.

Without a source, I will consider your post to be baseless and not supported by fact.

 

[Neolithic]

Firstly, this:* The new president called for reducing abortions but honored the radical decision that ushered in an era of 50 million abortions and virtually no limits* is dishonest. *Roe v. Wade *allowed abortions during the first trimester only; it was subsequent court rulings and laws that placed “virtually no limits” on it.

And I don’t think the Republican Party ever pushed Roe v. Wade; with the exception of a few candidates such as Barry Goldwater, the Republican Party has always been against Roe v. Wade. So, like others said, it’s a baseless claim which should be disregarded.

 

[mpi]

Firstly, this:* The new president called for reducing abortions but honored the radical decision that ushered in an era of 50 million abortions and virtually no limits* is dishonest. *Roe v. Wade *allowed abortions during the first trimester only; it was subsequent court rulings and laws that placed “virtually no limits” on it.

And I don’t think the Republican Party ever pushed Roe v. Wade; with the exception of a few candidates such as Barry Goldwater, the Republican Party has always been against Roe v. Wade. So, like others said, it’s a baseless claim which should be disregarded.

Prove Goldwater supported Roe. He was big into states rights.

 

[LRThunder]

Reducing abortion by supporting Roe v Wade is like trying to reduce slavery by supporting Dred Scot.

 

[pnewton]

Washington, DC – President Barack Obama used the occasion of the thirty-sixth anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision to issue a contradictory statement. The new president called for reducing abortions but honored the radical decision that ushered in an era of 50 million abortions and virtually no limits.

Maybe this is his concept of “unity”: talking out of both sides of his mouth.

 

[Halos1n2Horns]

I could of swore he said in his speach even tho he was talking about the war. of slaughtering innocent babies, If this is true then how can he be for abortion to begin with. Just my opinion.

I feel we need to keep emailing the vice president Joe Bidden after all he is a catholic and maybe with the flood of emails he may convince Mr president that its wrong to abort babies innocent lives.

Halos

The lord hears the cry of the poor, Blessed be his name,.

Did u know that someone rammed a srv in a abortion clinc, but was arrested. I can only pray that they end this battle before world war 3 breaks out, or something really drastic happens that he wont be able to stop.

 

[Neolithic]

Prove Goldwater supported Roe. He was big into states rights.

Sir, you’ll come to find that I never make statements I cannot back up with fact. You can trust me, but until then:

Goldwater viewed abortion as a matter of personal choice, not intended for government intervention.

In his 1980 Senate reelection campaign, Goldwater won support from religious conservatives **but in his final term voted consistently to uphold legalized abortion **and, in 1981, gave a speech on how he was angry about the bullying of American politicians by religious organizations, and would “fight them every step of the way”

Wikipedia

If Wikipedia does not satisfy you, then you can read Conservatives Without Conscience by John Dean - where I learned of Goldwater’s support for abortion - or The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.

Or, you can read this National Review Article by William F. Buckley Jr.

A few years before his death in 1998, Goldwater started taking positions different from those of the conservative constituency at large. Conspicuous here was his defense of Supreme Court decisions involving abortion, gay rights, and the separation of church and state.

National Review

I’m rather surprised you didn’t know it, because it’s rather common knowledge among those big into politics.

 

[PoliSciProf]

Prove Goldwater supported Roe. He was big into states rights.

Read the essay The Goldwater Myth published by the Claremont Institute. Goldwater came to a libertarian position towards the end of his Senate career which lead him to support abortion rights. Ditto on gay rights. See the last two paragraphs in the section on the *The Rise of the Moral *Issue. As Neolithic said (a poster above me), this is really well known to those who follow politics.

claremont.org/publications/crb/id.1237/article_detail.asp

 

[vera_dicere]

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Wikipedia
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Oh my gosh. Did you actually just cite Wikipedia? That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen in ages! HAHAHAHAH!

And one or two feeble quotes doesn’t back up your verbal diarrohea.

 

[Neolithic]

Oh my gosh. Did you actually just cite Wikipedia? That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen in ages! HAHAHAHAH!

And one or two feeble quotes doesn’t back up your verbal diarrohea.

I cited Wikipedia because Wikipedia cited the information. Secondly, if you choose not to believe the cited Wikipedia entry or William F. Buckley Jr, then please review this

Thank you to the poster who provided that link.

I’m sorry you thought you knew the real Goldwater, but you didn’t.

From the Goldwater Institute:

It is not challenged that Goldwater defended abortion as though it were a closed issue, closed in the sense that the Supreme Court had ruled, in Roe v. Wade, that abortion was a constitutional right.

From CNN:

In the last years of his life, Goldwater’s outspokeness generated controversy among some conservative fans. While he actively backed GOP presidential nominee Bob Dole in 1996, Goldwater’s support for individual rights concerning controversial issues like abortion and homosexual rights angered many Christian conservatives.

From Arizona Central:

Goldwater had won support of abortion opponents in his 1980 U.S. Senate re-election campaign,** but in his final term, he voted consistently to uphold the 1973 Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion.** Later in life, he was honored by Planned Parenthood

From Business Week:

The Arizonan favored abortion rights, had no objection to homosexuals serving in the military, and generally believed that government had no business intruding in the personal lives of any American. Goldwater famously said that Jerry Falwell, a leader of the Christian Right, “deserved a boot right in the ***” for pushing his values on the GOP.

From PBS:

He lived to be able to change his ideas to meet the changing times, to come out for abortion, to come out for gay rights, so much so that some old conservatives wanted to take his name off streets in Arizona.

So, you should probably know what you’re talking about before you start talking. Just a thought.

And, BTW, it’s diarrhea not diarrohea.

 

[ThomasB36]

I cited Wikipedia because Wikipedia cited the information. Secondly, if you choose not to believe the cited Wikipedia entry or William F. Buckley Jr, then please review this

Thank you to the poster who provided that link.

I’m sorry you thought you knew the real Goldwater, but you didn’t.

From the Goldwater Institute:

It is not challenged that Goldwater defended abortion as though it were a closed issue, closed in the sense that the Supreme Court had ruled, in Roe v. Wade, that abortion was a constitutional right.

From CNN:

In the last years of his life, Goldwater’s outspokeness generated controversy among some conservative fans. While he actively backed GOP presidential nominee Bob Dole in 1996, Goldwater’s support for individual rights concerning controversial issues like abortion and homosexual rights angered many Christian conservatives.

From Arizona Central:

Goldwater had won support of abortion opponents in his 1980 U.S. Senate re-election campaign,** but in his final term, he voted consistently to uphold the 1973 Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion.** Later in life, he was honored by Planned Parenthood

From Business Week:

The Arizonan favored abortion rights, had no objection to homosexuals serving in the military, and generally believed that government had no business intruding in the personal lives of any American. Goldwater famously said that Jerry Falwell, a leader of the Christian Right, “deserved a boot right in the ***” for pushing his values on the GOP.

From PBS:

He lived to be able to change his ideas to meet the changing times, to come out for abortion, to come out for gay rights, so much so that some old conservatives wanted to take his name off streets in Arizona.

So, you should probably know what you’re talking about before you start talking. Just a thought.

And, BTW, it’s diarrhea not diarrohea.

Just letting you know that you may be warned by a moderator for the length of your post. I believe it is limited to 4 paragraphs.

 

[mpi]

Sir, you’ll come to find that I never make statements I cannot back up with fact. You can trust me, but until then:

Goldwater viewed abortion as a matter of personal choice, not intended for government intervention.

In his 1980 Senate reelection campaign, Goldwater won support from religious conservatives **but in his final term voted consistently to uphold legalized abortion **and, in 1981, gave a speech on how he was angry about the bullying of American politicians by religious organizations, and would “fight them every step of the way”

Wikipedia

If Wikipedia does not satisfy you, then you can read Conservatives Without Conscience by John Dean - where I learned of Goldwater’s support for abortion - or The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.

Or, you can read this National Review Article by William F. Buckley Jr.

A few years before his death in 1998, Goldwater started taking positions different from those of the conservative constituency at large. Conspicuous here was his defense of Supreme Court decisions involving abortion, gay rights, and the separation of church and state.

National Review

I’m rather surprised you didn’t know it, because it’s rather common knowledge among those big into politics.

Thanks for the info. I did not realize that Goldwater lost his way in his later years. I definitely am a fan of the '64 Goldwater vs. the '80 Goldwater. It was the '64 Goldwater who helped inspire Reagan and Fred Thompson.

 

[Neolithic]

Thanks for the info. I did not realize that Goldwater lost his way in his later years. I definitely am a fan of the '64 Goldwater vs. the '80 Goldwater. It was the '64 Goldwater who helped inspire Reagan and Fred Thompson.

Yes. I, too, am a fan of the '64 Goldwater. When I read that he changed his outlook on abortion, I couldn’t believe it. I guess he just went nuts later on in life. Either way, Reagan was always my favorite.

 

[Newbie2]

Ignore what the current President (and all other politicians) say(s), and watch what they do.

Liers and thieves, with very few exceptions.

Our new President’s true colors will show through soon enough; arrogancy to the point of thinking we can play God with the unborn.

This whole pretense about him being a Christian is a sham, a charade. Otherwise, how could he even think about pushing abortion the way he has started out (by lifting Bush’s ban on using OUR TAX DOLLARS on international abortion education as one of his very first acts in office.

Pray for him and all the rest, that they may see and change the error of their ways.

 

[gam197]

originally posted by neolithic
And I don’t think the Republican Party ever pushed Roe v. Wade; with the exception of a few candidates such as Barry Goldwater, the Republican Party has always been against Roe v. Wade. So, like others said, it’s a baseless claim which should be disregarded.

The Republicans and Democrats both pushed for population policies.

Initially it was a republican legislator who introduced bills on contraception for Margaret Sanger so that may be why republicans were touted as supporting abortion. (The democrats fought Sanger)

There is an old book out called **“Breeding Ourselves to Death” **written by pro-abortion Lawrency Lader, founder of NARAL. He was a friend Dr. Nathanson who later would turn pro-life.

In this book he tells how Dixie Cup owner Hugh Moore (The Hugh Moore Foundation) in 1944 went from world peace to become involved in population control. His foundation promoted Paul Ehrlich –“The Population Bomb” distributing books (in libraries) and in millions of pamphlets.

This books states that these hired marketers knew they needed the government involved so in 1958 they went after Eisenhower but he was opposed to government involvement in population control. In 1965, he would change his mind.

Pres. John F. Kennedy was the first to commit the government to a hesitant population policy.

(A major famine was taking place in India.) They pressured congressmen and in 1966, 87 senators and 228 representatives were interested in government involvement in population control.

They pressured Johnson and he made statements about the population explosion. Nixon was the first to send a message to congress to ask for action to deal with population control.

In the back of book, they give a list of signers of these advertisements. Here are are a few…

Ray Densmore - Goodyear Tire and Rubber(The rubber companies went after Anthony Comstock in 1800’s)
H.E. Huphrey Jr. - U.S. Rubber
Fowler McCormick-International Harvester(wife was friend of Margaret Sanger and help fund research on pill)
Lammot duPont Copeland - E.I. dupont de Nemours & co.
The Rockefeller Foundation
The Ford Foundation
James E. Davis - Winn-Dixie Stores
Thomas Cabot - Cabot Corp.
William Nay - American Can Co.
Sidney - Gulf Oil Corp.
Charles White - Republic Steel Corp.
Thomas Lamont -Morgan Guaranty Trust Co.
George Champion-Chase Manhattan Bank
Robert Fiske - American Cyanamid Co.
William Hearst
Dr. Sabin
Dr. Salk
Dr. Leake
Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt

I posted two of many ads that were placed in magazine and newspapers.(Click on ad to enlarge) (We will starve; there will be no clean water and they went after the Pope).

It was very confusing until Republican Ronald Reagan got into office as a prolife president.