All you have to do is file married separately and you won’t have to buy health insurance for her. You can only go onto disability if you are disabled. If you think it is easy to go on disability 2/3 of all applicants are turned down for disability.With Obamacare and my employer being forced to shed healthcare costs, our costs are going through the roof. my wife has no income and I was wondering if there were any options to a civil separation so we could divide the income. EG, could she go on disability, welfare, obamacare while I continue to work with my income insulated from her. Are there any resources on how to approach this and calculate the potential savings/income. If we do anything I want to be sure to do it by the book.
I am so sick of people vilifying any one that works hard and actually wants some luxury in their life. It is exactly this mindset that has lead to the vast amounts of parasites and leeches that feel they have some sort of right to a portion of what I earn.“Mommy and daddy got a legal divorce and we have to represent ourselves and divorced even though we aren’t so that we can get money from the government to buy luxury items that we don’t need”. I try not to judge other’s parenting, but that is so far over the line of acceptable. That’s how you end up raising Bernie Madoff.
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I’m just going to point this out, but BEL didn’t make any sweeping generalization about people who work hard to give their family a good life.I am so sick of people vilifying any one that works hard and actually wants some luxury in their life. It is exactly this mindset that has lead to the vast amounts of parasites and leeches that feel they have some sort of right to a portion of what I earn.
Like I said before, there are those who need help. I wholeheartedly support helping them. Then there are those who just don’t want to put in any time and effort and go thru any kind of discomfort to help themselves.
People who work hard and want their family to reap the benefits of their labor are not selfish and we are not all Bernie Madoff’s. That is a ridiculous conclusion.
But my argument is that the Church teaches divorce is wrong and should be avoided at all costs. If the OP divorces, I think we all agree the Church still would see him as married. However, I don’t think the Church would want people to divorce for financial reasons either. Needless to say, it would cause scandal.No.
The Church does not depend on the state’s judgment of who is married and who isn’t. The Church does comply with state laws because they’re laws. But, as with priests saying Mass in Ireland when my great grandparents lived there, the Church does not abandon sacraments just because the state might forbid them.
Yep, that would all have to go into the calculation.I got married in summer, but my husband changed his filing status at the beginning of the year so that we would get more money each paycheck instead of getting a large tax refund in spring. When he changed his filing status he started getting just over $400 more every month. Marriage is significant. Kids are significant. .
HMMM. do you say that about the other ~47% of Americans who admit being on the public dole?Speaking of kids, how will you explain this to them? “Mommy and daddy got a legal divorce and we have to represent ourselves and divorced even though we aren’t so that we can get money from the government to buy luxury items that we don’t need”. I try not to judge other’s parenting, but that is so far over the line of acceptable. That’s how you end up raising Bernie Madoff.
Gossip is also frowned upon by the church.And scandal? If I knew someone was catholic and I saw that they did this, well let’s just say that they would lose a lot of credibility with me (and everyone that I told about this, and I would talk) when they started talking about promoting “traditional family values”. In fact, I’m not sure I could actually hear you say the word “values” without rolling on the floor laughing with tears in my eyes.
The scandal is trying to equate the government definition of marriage with Gods when they are two separate entities with two separate meanings.But my argument is that the Church teaches divorce is wrong and should be avoided at all costs. If the OP divorces, I think we all agree the Church still would see him as married. However, I don’t think the Church would want people to divorce for financial reasons either. Needless to say, it would cause scandal.
The number is no where near 47%. The vast majority of people on public support have a demonstrable need for it. Most support programs have work requirements (like SNAP), and the ones that don’t (like unemployment) have requirements that you be actively looking for work.Yep, that would all have to go into the calculation.
HMMM. do you say that about the other ~47% of Americans who admit being on the public dole?
Gossip is also frowned upon by the church.
Not everyone and not separate the true moral aspects, just alter the arrangement to an informal one that does not infringe upon her access to government benefits.How much money does it take exactly for you to deny your wife? Because that’s exactly what you’re doing. You made vows to each other, and in my vows at least we promised “for better, for worse; for richer, for poorer”, and we meant it. But you want to tell the government, the courts, and everyone you encounter while you try to carry this out that your wife is not your wife, that she is not your best friend, that she is not walking through life with you, that you have no commitment to her. How sad that money would motivate you not only to lie, but to deny your spouse…
She is legitimately disabled and had to quit work because of it. unfortunately the only reason she can not collect disability is because she is married to me. It may be hard, but it is worth a shot.I guess I’m not understanding, does he want his wife to go on disability? That’s not what that’s for. Disability is to protect families when they lose a breadwinner due to health problems. His wife is not a breadwinner, and they’ve never needed her to have income. So now that she can’t work he wants her to be treated by the government as though she has been working all along and needs to in order to survive.
My mom just got approved for disability after 4 years of struggle. Lawyers, medical evaluations, court dates, affidavits, the whole nine yards. It isn’t easy, and it isn’t easily abused.
your right it was higher: cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-49-americans-get-gov-t-benefits-82m-households-medicaidThe number is no where near 47%. The vast majority of people on public support have a demonstrable need for it. Most support programs have work requirements (like SNAP), and the ones that don’t (like unemployment) have requirements that you be actively looking for work.
You have no need for it. You want to buy a vacation home. If you want it that much, why not just have your wife get a job? Even a part time job would net you more money than this immoral idea.
Oh, and it isn’t gossip if you divorce for financial gain and people find out and tell each other about it.
Conversely has a point. Jesus said to “render unto Ceasar the things which are Ceasars…” he never said that one had to render more than Ceasar required. In the above case, the man is following the law–only he is following it to the VERY letter–and not one step more. The government made the law regarding divorces and the law this man is following. It also has made the laws concerning income tax deductions that I doubt any of us would say that we don’t claim any and all of that we can within the law. So, I don’t know. I don’t think i’m going to personally be so quick to judge the MeNo your friend is cheating.
He is living with someone and not telling the state. This is the illegal loophole many use to cheat the system. It is hard for the state to enforce but they are lying about their circumstances.
Look, either you’re all in when it comes to marriage or you aren’t. I am. There is no circumstance, except perhaps to save his life, that I would deny my husband to anyone. He deserves better and our bond is worth more than that. And I certainly wouldn’t do it for money. If you are willing to tell people that your wife is not your wife, you might want to take a hard look at your marriage.Not everyone and not separate the true moral aspects, just alter the arrangement to an informal one that does not infringe upon her access to government benefits.
She is legitimately disabled and had to quit work because of it. unfortunately the only reason she can not collect disability is because she is married to me. It may be hard, but it is worth a shot.
Please stop lying, I do not want to buy a vacation home! I never said it.
You are the one who brought up that you are looking at a property to be a vacation/retirement home. Yes, a bunch of people misunderstood you, but saying that you want a vacation home is hardly a lie. You have admitted multiple times that you are thinking about getting a second property and have even admitted to thinking of this property as a vacation home. You have actually said this.We were looking at a vacation/retirement property that could qualify as one residence if it was required. as for living apart, I barely see them anyway since I spend so many hours working.
1.2. The legal definition of welfare fraud in California law
Welfare fraud takes place when people make false statements or fail to report important information when applying for these types of public programs in order to receive benefits to which they are not otherwise entitled.
Most instances of California welfare fraud are prohibited under Welfare and Institutions Code 10980 WIC. You violate this law by
deliberately misstating information or failing to provide relevant information in order to obtain, retain or increase undeserved welfare benefits,
applying for benefits under more than one name or by filing multiple applications to obtain multiple benefits, and/or
using, transferring, acquiring, purchasing, selling, possessing, altering or counterfeiting
(a) authorizations to receive food stamps, or
(b) actual food stamps.2
So when the law says : "tells all income earned in your household from all sources " and you leave out the income of the person living with you in your household,Conversely has a point. Jesus said to “render unto Ceasar the things which are Ceasars…” he never said that one had to render more than Ceasar required. In the above case, the man is following the law–only he is following it to the VERY letter–and not one step more. The government made the law regarding divorces and the law this man is following. It also has made the laws concerning income tax deductions that I doubt any of us would say that we don’t claim any and all of that we can within the law. So, I don’t know. I don’t think i’m going to personally be so quick to judge the Me
Mexican american man. Maybe he’d doing about thee same as the rest of us–following thee law to the “t”.
For now.But at the same time the church does require a civil license if you want to perform the marriage sacrament.
Yes, this is also why St Valentine was martyred for performing illegal weddings in Rome, but when weddings are legal in the state, the church REQUIRES you to follow the civil procedure so that you are truly “all in” .For now.
Back during Reconstruction in my state, Catholic weddings were forbidden. But priests did it anyway. The Church tells us to go along with the state until the state crosses the line. But the Church does not, in any way, depend on the state to define what a marriage is or isn’t. If it did, Catholic parishes would be doing same-sex marriages in the states where it’s legal. But they don’t.