Observations on the new sub-forum

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angelheart said:
Hello,

I really think he was just shocked about the change…we all are…i think he didn’t mean it that way. We all say bad things when we are upset.

God bless!
Stefania
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Welcome, Stefania. I’m afraid that that outburst was precisely the sort of thing that caused the forum to be closed. I just don’t think the moderators should allow that kind of thing any more.
 
I’m not going to give him a pass on calling Catholics heretics and the Pope the AntiChrist.

How would it be if I made similar statements about the Orthodox Church?

I understand being upset, but when I’m upset my first reaction is not to call the Orthodox heretics (which they certainly are not).

Unfortunately, we got to see what he really thinks of Catholics and bolsters the case for shutting down the EC forum. (which I wish still existed)
 
I notice that on certain Orthodox forums there are specific sub-forums dedicated to topics that might be of a polemical nature (such as Oriental Orthodox / Eastern Orthodox relations). This is just a suggestion: but perhaps it might be best on CAF to create a sub-forum specifically for those subjects that are likely to be contentious. Perhaps Eastern Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy can both be sub-forums of Eastern Christianity, the latter being reserved for those Catholic/Orthodox issues that might be more hotly debated?
 
Madaglan said:
I notice that on certain Orthodox forums there are specific sub-forums dedicated to topics that might be of a polemical nature (such as Oriental Orthodox / Eastern Orthodox relations). This is just a suggestion: but perhaps it might be best on CAF to create a sub-forum specifically for those subjects that are likely to be contentious. Perhaps Eastern Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy can both be sub-forums of Eastern Christianity, the latter being reserved for those Catholic/Orthodox issues that might be more hotly debated?
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I favor that as well. I think most EO in this forum would like the idea as well.
 
obadiah said:
After being off the forums since October, I am dissapointed that CAF has relegated the Orthodox Church to the netherworld of cyberspace. I always knew the Roman Church is afraid of the truth. Our arguments were just too strong.
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Nice to see you back.🙂
 
obadiah said:
First, I was never taken off the forums, it was voluntary on my part, all the proud boastful roman catholics refused to see that the Orthodox Church IS THE ORIGINAL CHURCH AND ALL THE UNIATE BETRAYERS SUCCUMMED TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC HERESY. BAN ME AND TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LIST. THE POPE IS THE ANTICHRIST.
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I am saddened that you have this view. But if I remember, weren’t you one of those anti-Catholic Protestants recruited on campus or converted to Orthodoxy and carried you anti-Catholic mentality with you? Ironically, there was a former Pentecostal Man that became an Eastern Orthodox Deacon and then converted to the Latin Catholic rite since he was actually a cradle Catholic that was not raised Catholic. It made things easier for him. I forgot his name but he was on EWTN’s Journy Home some time this past year. You might want to go to the EWTN website and download his story. You journey is not complete my friend. You need to return to prayer for a while until you can settle down.

PAX
 
jj2011 said:
Welcome, Stefania. I’m afraid that that outburst was precisely the sort of thing that caused the forum to be closed. I just don’t think the moderators should allow that kind of thing any more.
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Hello,

I understand…it wasn’t probably the best way to handle this…but really it’s not only the Orthodox who caused tension…Catholics ask for Orthodox’s position on certain things that are most likely controversial. I think we all should learn how to not take it personally when our beliefs are challenged.

God bless!
Stefania
 
NewAbdalMaseeh said:
Thank you, I’m lookg at the website now. But could you be more specific as to the relevance? I mean, did you recommend this particular Father because he is particularly valuable to those confused about the divide between Orthodoxy and Catholicism?
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Greetings,

I just recommended Fr. George Rutler because I know that he is a very knowledgable Catholic priest and because he lives in NY. I don’t know how knowledgable he is in regards to Eastern Orthodoxy but I would guess that he knows enough about it.

Perhaps an Orthodox Christian in this forum will be able to recommend an Orthodox priest that you could talk to?

If you have anymore questions don’t hesitate in contacting me.
 
NewAbdalMaseeh,

I recommend you read the books of Archbishop Elias Zoghby. He was a Melkite Catholic bishop who, IMHO, describes fairly well the differences between Christian West and Christian East. Although he writes from the standpoint of an Eastern Catholic, he is very sympathetic to Orthodoxy, and many Orthodox would agree with what he writes (although certainly not all of it).
 
I think it would be best to have an Eastern Catholic subforum and an Eastern Orthodox subforum, both part of an Eastern Christianity forum. Non-Catholic religions is muddled up enough with Muslims, Mormons and JW’s lumped in with Protestants. I like checking out threads in non-Catholic religions, but I prefer threads related to some aspect of Protestantism. Now I may avoid that forum altogether since I have to wade through all those other threads just to find one I’m interested in. 😦
 
I see this as a heavy-handed move by Catholic Answers to shut down discussion of Orthodox-Catholic issues. If the old forum frequently degenerated into fights, it was largely because of RC partisans who would start threads with questions like “Why don’t the Orthodox accept the divinely-given authority of the Pope” and such.
Eastern Catholicism considered apart from Orthodoxy is not worthy of a forum. Joe
 
The Jesuits for the Christian East (bi-ritual) know a fair amount about the Christian East. Many are, IMHO, anti-Orthodox, others are more congenial towards their Orthodox brethren. Several Jesuits have converted to Orthodoxy, although several decide to remain Roman Catholic.
 
The open hostility to “Eastern Catholics” by the Eastern Orthodox posters lately has been both profound and overt.

Their hostility to both Oriental Orthodoxy and Roman Catholocism is just as profound and overt.

The unwillingness of many of the EO posters to let EC’s answer questions about what the EC’s believe without interjecting irrelevant EO perspectives has been profoundly annoying.

It was nice to see the EO perspective; it was not nice to see the EO act as if they owned the forum.

I’m happy about the change in purpose.

At one point I considered Russian Orthodoxy. Given the witness given by the EO here, I’m glad I didn’t.
 
jco2004 said:
I see this as a heavy-handed move by Catholic Answers to shut down discussion of Orthodox-Catholic issues. If the old forum frequently degenerated into fights, it was largely because of RC partisans who would start threads with questions like “Why don’t the Orthodox accept the divinely-given authority of the Pope” and such.
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Imagine finding Roman Catholic partisans on a Roman Catholic forum that’s run by a Roman Catholic apologetics organization that’s funded by the donations of Roman Catholics :rolleyes:
jco2004 said:
Eastern Catholicism considered apart from Orthodoxy is not worthy of a forum. Joe
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And I suspect it’s precisely this attitude from some (not even most, fortunately) of the Orthodox posters in the old forum that led the moderators to make this move. Why should the Catholic moderators of this Catholic forum consult the Orthodox on how to run a targeted discussion forum for Eastern Catholic issues?
 
Aramis said:
The open hostility to “Eastern Catholics” by the Eastern Orthodox posters lately has been both profound and overt.

Their hostility to both Oriental Orthodoxy and Roman Catholocism is just as profound and overt.
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But Catholic hostility to Orthodox posters is OK, right? :rolleyes: Matthew 7:3 my friend. I will never get tired of saying it.
 
wynd said:
But Catholic hostility to Orthodox posters is OK, right? :rolleyes: Matthew 7:3 my friend. I will never get tired of saying it.
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We don’t need hostility; the discussions ought to have been about the councils and the fathers, and our side ought to be showing that the fathers are Catholic.
 
jj2011 said:
We don’t need hostility; the discussions ought to have been about the councils and the fathers, and our side ought to be showing that the fathers are Catholic.
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Exactly. Too bad you’re seemingly one of the only people who understands that. Calling Orthodox Protestants because they have no central earthly authority is just as bad as calling Catholics Protestants because of their use of Scholasticism.
 
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