Observations on the new sub-forum

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I think this was a sad move. This was the only forum that I was really interested in. I don’t know how an Eastern Catholic forum can survive without Eastern Orthodox.
 
djrakowski said:
Imagine finding Roman Catholic partisans on a Roman Catholic forum that’s run by a Roman Catholic apologetics organization that’s funded by the donations of Roman Catholics :rolleyes:
And I suspect it’s precisely this attitude from some (not even most, fortunately) of the Orthodox posters in the old forum that led the moderators to make this move. Why should the Catholic moderators of this Catholic forum consult the Orthodox on how to run a targeted discussion forum for Eastern Catholic issues?
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In other words, you and the sponsors of this forum are not interested in a fair and open discussion of issues with Orthodox Christians. Fair enough- you won’t get one. The Orthodox will leave you to yourselves. Joe
 
The truth is that I may participate more now that it doesn’t feel like it belongs to the Eastern Orthodox. Some of the posts were a bit extreme IMHO. Like I said making fun of Catholic devotions is just NOT acceptable. Many of our devotions in the Sacred Heart and Divine Mercy are precious to us. Insulting our devotions is just asking for trouble and will most certainly attract hostile reaction from Latin Catholics if not the Eastern Catholics.

The Rosary is not a big devotion in the Eastern Catholic Church form what I understand and I assume that they do not have a deveotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
 
jco2004 said:
In other words, you and the sponsors of this forum are not interested in a fair and open discussion of issues with Orthodox Christians. Fair enough- you won’t get one. The Orthodox will leave you to yourselves. Joe
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Or you could just realize that Orthodox-Catholic dialogue doesn’t best belong on the Eastern Catholicism board and discern where it goes instead.

It looks like Apologetics and Non-Catholic Religions are already filling with such threads. Try these:

Eastern Orthodox - Oriental - Anglican - Old Catholic

Historical Christianity is One, Holy, Catholic, & Apostolic Church

Eastern Orthodox View of the Christian Church before the Schism

The Petrine Ministry in the Eyes of the Early Church

Welcoming Eastern Orthodox Christians

Eastern Orthodox view of Latin Catholics

So…do the Orthodox have a universal language?
 
I would say that it would have been better if the Eastern Christianity Forum remained open.

I also think that it would have been a good idea to put 2 moderators in charge of the forum as oppossed to just one.

Finally, I think that it would have been a good idea if the forum administrator(s)/moderators established a zero tolerance policy by which uncharitable/brash posters would have been “struck down” immediately.
 
SiempreFiel said:
I would say that it would have been better if the Eastern Christianity Forum remained open.

I also think that it would have been a good idea to put 2 moderators in charge of the forum as oppossed to just one.

Finally, I think that it would have been a good idea if the forum administrator(s)/moderators established a zero tolerance policy by which uncharitable/brash posters would have been “struck down” immediately.
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Hello,

I think your ideas are great! I agree with you.
God bless!
Stefania
 
SiempreFiel said:
I would say that it would have been better if the Eastern Christianity Forum remained open.

I also think that it would have been a good idea to put 2 moderators in charge of the forum as oppossed to just one.

Finally, I think that it would have been a good idea if the forum administrator(s)/moderators established a zero tolerance policy by which uncharitable/brash posters would have been “struck down” immediately.
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angelheart said:
Hello,

I think your ideas are great! I agree with you.
God bless!
Stefania
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I agree as well.
 
mikellie said:
It’s just sad. I take his statement at face value. I’m just bothered by the view many Orthodox appear hold regarding Catholicism.
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In my experience folks attracted to the forums of another communion or faith tend to be of the more polemic variety. I don’t think what is offered here by a handful of (largely convert ex-Catholic) Orthodox is representitive of your average Orthodox Christian.

Even among converts, I don’t think this is always so prevalent. A small fledging Antiochian mission uses our parish for divine services regularly and the priest - an Evangelical convert - said to our pastor point blank “I’m not interested in sheep stealing from the Catholic Church or worrying about the differences that divide us - there are far too many people who don’t know Christ for me to be working on than to worry about polemics.”

Such man, a rather gracious and humble soul, probably better represents your average Orthodox than someone who spends hours a day on Catholic Answers forums.
 
More than just a bad idea.

I have been lurking in this forum for 2-3 years. It has always highlighted good and bad elements to the original universal church.

Every once and a while, you would have a real trouble maker come on in and cause chaos until they got booted. It seemed to solve most of the hostility on hotly debated topics.

For anyone that would say that they are happy for the change because now they can actually engage in discussions without the Orthodox point of view… I say hogwash.

There have been many a thread that have been started by people that open up by stating they don’t want a debate on the issue, they just want an Eastern Catholic perspective… and they got it in a short lived, low attended, format.

This forum got the attention and many times the scholarly works precisely because it challenged people on their points of view.

People demanded research and citations in order to call your point valid.

Now you’ll either have the Orthodox posters spread out all across these forums searching for threads, or lose them altogether.

Without even asking any (name removed by moderator)ut from the regulars, I dare say that the move is stupid to say the least. The only reason people are emotional about it is because they care. Many of us have spent hundreds of hours reading and participating.

Although CAF has every right to take it away, it really is inconsiderate and rather tyrannical.
 
djrakowski said:
Imagine finding Roman Catholic partisans on a Roman Catholic forum that’s run by a Roman Catholic apologetics organization that’s funded by the donations of Roman Catholics :rolleyes:
And I suspect it’s precisely this attitude from some (not even most, fortunately) of the Orthodox posters in the old forum that led the moderators to make this move. Why should the Catholic moderators of this Catholic forum consult the Orthodox on how to run a targeted discussion forum for Eastern Catholic issues?
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My friend Roman Catholics have never been big on discussing anything with anyone, why should they start now?
 
I think RC have been discussing issues with you for sometime on this site.

I’m not going to defend what happened to the forum, but it clearly was an unpopular thing to do. I and other RC have protested the action at personal cost.

I just hope to discuss this with an administrator at some point.
 
Please forgive me for my outburst. I like many of my Orthodox brothers and sisters are upset and a little hurt.

Your unworthy servant
Paisius
 
Paisius said:
My friend Roman Catholics have never been big on discussing anything with anyone, why should they start now?
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Oooh, nice attack. I’ll get back to you once I see some resemblence of Christ in your post.
 
Paisius said:
Please forgive me for my outburst. I like many of my Orthodox brothers and sisters are upset and a little hurt.

Your unworthy servant
Paisius
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I feel the same. It really took me by surprise too. It’ll take some time getting used to, but let’s pray it is only temporary.
 
MikeNC said:
I think RC have been discussing issues with you for sometime on this site.
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Your right and I apologize. My anger is really directed at the administrators and not at the Catholic posters on this forum. I only wish they had at least had the decency warn us a little.😦
 
icxc_nika said:
Although CAF has every right to take it away, it really is inconsiderate and rather tyrannical.
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Can you point to an Orthodox-Answers type forum where Catholics are/were similarly accomadated with such wide latitude to frequently criticize the hierarchy of faith of Orthodox Christians.

It isn’t tyrannical, it is sensible. People come to Catholic Answers to get Catholic answers. This forum had become the hobby of 6+ Orthodox posters with a combined total of 40K+ posts just between themselves.

The cacophony of such contradistinctive voices - several of whom had a penchant for knowingly misrepresenting the church when it was expedient - had gotten the place to a point where serious apologists did not want to be bothered, and questions “eastern” were left to that environment. It was a disservice to the mission of CAF.
 
ASimpleSinner said:
Can you point to an Orthodox-Answers type forum where Catholics are/were similarly accomadated with such wide latitude to frequently criticize the hierarchy of faith of Orthodox Christians.

It isn’t tyrannical, it is sensible. People come to Catholic Answers to get Catholic answers. This forum had become the hobby of 6+ Orthodox posters with a combined total of 40K+ posts just between themselves.

The cacophony of such contradistinctive voices - several of whom had a penchant for knowingly misrepresenting the church when it was expedient - had gotten the place to a point where serious apologists did not want to be bothered, and questions “eastern” were left to that environment. It was a disservice to the mission of CAF.
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If there was an “Orthodox answers” site that had anywhere near the traffic of CAF I would spend most of my time there. And, I would welcome as many Roman Catholics as had a desire to post there and would have no problem whatsoever with them posting about any topic they wanted to.

Yours in Christ
Paisius
 
I also am very sad at the change - I don’t like it.:mad:

To me Eastern Catholics have a special understanding of our Eastern Orthodox Brethren - after all we share books , our Liturgy is the same broadly speaking 😉 ]

We understand each other’s traditions and respect them most of the time ]

We can laugh at each other and understand why we do this.

We do have more difficulty with our Latin Brethren - because we are smaller in number they are less aware of us and this itself leads to problems - Infant Communion is a shining example .

I’m sorry - to me it seems that a few malcontents were out to cause problems and get their own way - and their manipulations semm to have done just that
 
I am also very saddened by this change. I don’t recall ever having said anything offensive to RC, so I feel I have the right to say I am offended that Eastern Orthodoxy is from now on to be seen as a ‘non-catholic’ religion. 😦

I hope the moderators will consider Madaglan’s proposal: Eastern Christianity forum divided into Eastern Orthodoxy and Eastern Catholicism. Heavily moderated. (I quite like Joe Monahan’s relaxed and jocular moderation, but it couldn’t hurt to be stricter 😉 ) It also keeps all the ‘trouble-makers’ in one place, instead of all over Apologetics/Liturgy & Sacraments/Non-Catholic Religions and those not interested in Orthodox/Catholic polemics never have to visit.

In the wise words of Derek Trotter: ‘You know it makes sense.’ 😃
 
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