occupation?

[DPMartin]

Does the Lord God occupy His creation? In the sense of; The action of occupying or condition of being occupied, or that in which this action is embodied (in senses of the verb)… The action of taking possession, esp. of a place or of land; seizure, as by military conquest, etc.; entrance upon possession.

And if He does where and how does He occupy His creation?

 

[CB_Catholic]

Does the Lord God occupy His creation? In the sense of; The action of occupying or condition of being occupied, or that in which this action is embodied (in senses of the verb)… The action of taking possession, esp. of a place or of land; seizure, as by military conquest, etc.; entrance upon possession.

And if He does where and how does He occupy His creation?

Not quite sure what you are getting at here, but the Lord is present in all of His creation, and without Him everything would cease to exist. Does that fit your definition of occupy? Or answer your question in any way?

 

[DPMartin]

Not quite sure what you are getting at here, but the Lord is present in all of His creation, and without Him everything would cease to exist. Does that fit your definition of occupy? Or answer your question in any way?

CB

thanks for the reply

If what you say is so, then why do men not know His Presence?

 

[agbasinger]

The question seems limited by language. God is with his creation, but the term ‘occupy’ suggests location. God is omnipresent.

 

[DPMartin]

The question seems limited by language. God is with his creation, but the term ‘occupy’ suggests location. God is omnipresent.

Agbasinger
thanks for the reply

Ok, we know that darkness is. Is God in darkness? And again, how is it that men not know His Presence.

 

[CB_Catholic]

CB

thanks for the reply

If what you say is so, then why do men not know His Presence?

I don’t understand what you mean that men do not know His Presence. What do you think Christianity is all about? God revealed His Presence to us in His Son Jesus Christ, and before that to the Jews. Don’t you believe this as a Catholic?

The belief that there is something beyond ourselves and greater than us is something present in almost every culture throughout the history of mankind in one form or another.

Maybe you are having trouble believing and are walking in darkness, I don’t know, but it certainly is not true that men do not know His Presence. Just reading the posts on this forum ought to tell you that. What are you really getting at? Are you having a problem?

Or are you just trying to argue something, what it is, I don’t have a clue.

 

[DPMartin]

I don’t understand what you mean that men do not know His Presence. What do you think Christianity is all about? God revealed His Presence to us in His Son Jesus Christ, and before that to the Jews. Don’t you believe this as a Catholic?

The belief that there is something beyond ourselves and greater than us is something present in almost every culture throughout the history of mankind in one form or another.

Maybe you are having trouble believing and are walking in darkness, I don’t know, but it certainly is not true that men do not know His Presence. Just reading the posts on this forum ought to tell you that. What are you really getting at? Are you having a problem?

Or are you just trying to argue something, what it is, I don’t have a clue.

CB
thanks for the reply

Did I say all men?!!!

I am inclined to believe you intent to talk about what you want to talk about, and not the original posting of the thread. So thanks, but no thanks.

 

[agbasinger]

Maybe men do know his presence but in some way push him away, much like Adam and Eve hiding in the Garden.

FYI, we can’t measure darkness, darkness is defined as the absense of light.

 

[DPMartin]

Maybe men do know his presence but in some way push him away, much like Adam and Eve hiding in the Garden.

FYI, we can’t measure darkness, darkness is defined as the absense of light.

agbasinger
thanks for the reply

Though they heard the Voice of the Lord they hid from His Presence in shame of their nakedness. Therefore their life. But the Life of Christ is Righteous and is not shame. For in the eating of the fruit they agreed that they should judge what is good and evil. But it is the fulfillment of God’s Commandments in the world (human existence) that is Good.

I believe it’s something like this. If God does not occupy the world, (human existence) men can justify his own choices of right and wrong, good and evil (remain in control). But if God occupies the world through His Word in His Holy Presence then men can not justify his own choices of good and evil for what is good for the world is the Word of God in His Holy Presence in the world (human existence). But in Jesus Christ is the occupation that, has come in God’s Peace offering to the world. And is to come to occupy the world (which from most accounts in the Bible will not be a Peace offering). Being aware whether there is a God or not, can be difficult to explain, though one would think that being alive, as in aware, would be self evident. But the lucifer and cohorts is aware there is a God, and has seen His face and has been cast out of His Presence, hence darkness and speaks that which is not (father of lies).

But darkness is not immeasurable for it ends in the exposure to the Light. But the Light is separated from darkness. (Hence the need for repentance)

God is infinite. For His Light (His Word), in His Presence, ends darkness. But God never ends.