October 31, 2017 - 500 Years of Protest is long enough... Time to Come Home

[MrS]

A.Pelliccio:

The catholic faith is the only true

The protestants are incomplete

The schismatics were founded by a disgrunteld German nationalist priest in the 1500s. The man rewrote the vulgate to meet his ridiculious theologies and was insane. The pillars of our faith and our founder is stronger as opposed to a man who had fights with himself. We are superior to Protestants in our faith.

Actually he was a monk… and in His Divine Wisdom, God saw to it that he was ONLY a monk, and not a valid bishop. Hence, when he died, he left only his family, and no continuing ordinations. How awesome!!

 

[MrS]

LeftHandBlack:

I hope and pray that you all soon see the light and become more accepting of our fellow Christians. Until then, have a nice life.

We, I, do accept them… but we need to accept them for what they are , and not for what they are not.

They are members of the body of Christ, through their baptism (infant or adult). But they are separated members because of faulty doctrines (man made). They have rejected one or more teachings of Christ. Hence the title of Christian might be better replaced with separated brethren.

One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism… no compromise.

 

[A.Pelliccio]

Sola Fidelis and Sola Scriptura have been proven false. JPII I Miss U has already responded correctly to the modernist rubbish that was equating our holy mother church with the man made heresy which is Luther and Calvin. These men deny key tenants of the Christ’s church. These theological deficiencies are not just menial or semantics.

 

[Dr.Bombay]

LeftHandBlack:

What? What’s so conceited about wanting some things changed for the better?

Gee, I can’t imagine. I can’t imagine that anyone would think it conceited that you, with your vast and ancient life experience, would presume to dictate doctrine to a 2,000 year old institution founded by Jesus Christ Himself. You’re right. Jesus said, “Thou art LeftHandBlack and on this Rock I will build my Church.” I’m Catholic, so you have to forgive me. Sometimes I don’t remember bible verses very well. Lefty, you can be just like God. Don’t let anyone tell you any different.

LeftHandBlack:

What’s so conceited about (for example) believing that comprehensive and factual sex education being taught to people in impoverished countries could help stem the spread of AIDS and HIV? What’s conceited about wanting the Church to be a place where people feel welcome instead of vaguely ill at ease?

Oh, you’re one of those libs who think the Church is to blame for the spread of AIDS. Nice.

Conceited? Nah, your word “creepy” better describes this one. You do realize that if every single person on planet Earth followed Catholic teaching in regard to sexual morality, within one generation, two at the most, every single sexually transmitted disease, including AIDS and HIV would be eliminated from the world? You DO realize this, don’t ya?

But if you think latex is the answer, knock yourself out. Mother Nature, created by God, has a funny way of punishing deviant sexual behavior…“and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.” Romans 1:27

 

[LeftHandBlack]

Dr. Bombay:

Gee, I can’t imagine. I can’t imagine that anyone would think it conceited that you, with your vast and ancient life experience, would presume to dictate doctrine to a 2,000 year old institution founded by Jesus Christ Himself. You’re right. Jesus said, “Thou art LeftHandBlack and on this Rock I will build my Church.” I’m Catholic, so you have to forgive me. Sometimes I don’t remember bible verses very well. Lefty, you can be just like God. Don’t let anyone tell you any different.

Oh, you’re one of those libs who think the Church is to blame for the spread of AIDS. Nice.

Conceited? Nah, your word “creepy” better describes this one. You do realize that if every single person on planet Earth followed Catholic teaching in regard to sexual morality, within one generation, two at the most, every single sexually transmitted disease, including AIDS and HIV would be eliminated from the world? You DO realize this, don’t ya?

But if you think latex is the answer, knock yourself out. Mother Nature, created by God, has a funny way of punishing deviant sexual behavior…“and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.” Romans 1:27

I couldn’t resist this.

Very mature attitude you have, Dr. Bombay. Very mature. I’m just kicking some ideas around. What’s wrong with that? And I never claimed to be on the same level or even NEAR THE SAME LEVEL as GOD. That goes beyond conceit into being just plain DUMB AS A BRICK. I never knew I could be a heretic by following my conscience.

I don’t think the Church is to blame for the spread of AIDS. But it could help dispel a few destructive myths- one example being that if an HIV infected man sleeps with a virgin he’ll be cured of the disease. Why shouldn’t the Church address and eliminate the spread of such bull-hockey?

I myself, practice monogamy. Sexual morality is great and all, but let’s face it, some people won’t listen to what we gotta say. So why not try to present something they will listen to? If information about contraception helps the situation, let’s pursue that avenue.

As for your theory about the entire world following our ethics leading to the elimination of STDs within 1 or 2 generations, what about accidental needlesticks? What about contaminated blood supplies or infection because of that? What if people just don’t know the history of the people they’re being intimate with- that sorta stupidity happens far too often. Or what if people that get infected for whatever reason do not get tested? People can go for years without showing outward symptoms of HIV and AIDS, and in that time they could spread the virus.

And for your information, I’m a centrist, in that I think there are good ideas on both the liberal and conservative sides of the fence.

 

[Marian_Carroll]

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[Petergee]

I don’t think the Church is to blame for the spread of AIDS. But it could help dispel a few destructive myths- one example being that if an HIV infected man sleeps with a virgin he’ll be cured of the disease. Why shouldn’t the Church address and eliminate the spread of such bull-hockey?

Last I checked the Church was still teaching loud and clear that fornication and adultery are absolutely forbidden, and that the only reliable prevention for HIV is abstinence, and that HIV infected people should abstain from any sexual relations except with another HIV infected person to whom they are married. Don’t blame the Church for the fact that most people don’t listen to it. The Church is doing its best to combat the bull-hockey but stronger voices shout it down.

 

[Fizendell]

Wow… I guess when I started this one I had no idea where it would lead.

I guess I was thinking more in terms of open communication, clarifying the misconceptions of the Catholic Church - ones that even now I learn I misunderstood all those years.

I know - it’s a utopian idea to even think that all those denominations would suddenly wake up and think - Wow - how messed up is this? and come rushing to the Catholic Church.

Perhaps this was more of an exercise in “what would we do differently as Catholics to promote the unification of Christianity”?

So - don’t forget to Love.

 

[Michael_Welter]

Fizendell:

Perhaps this was more of an exercise in “what would we do differently as Catholics to promote the unification of Christianity”?

So - don’t forget to Love.

Excellent point! The more we love our seperated brethren, the more likely they are to come home. While we cannot compromise our doctrines, we certainly can changes rules and laws. God gave the Church the authority to bind and loose. If changing some of the rules and laws would bring about greater unity, then I’m all for it.

 

[MrS]

Michael Welter:

Excellent point! The more we love our seperated brethren, the more likely they are to come home. While we cannot compromise our doctrines, we certainly can changes rules and laws. God gave the Church the authority to bind and loose. If changing some of the rules and laws would bring about greater unity, then I’m all for it./QUOTE]

any suggestions? What disciplines might we change? It seems that the real disagreements are with the doctrines, not the disciplines.

 

[LeftHandBlack]

Fizendell:

Wow… I guess when I started this one I had no idea where it would lead.

I guess I was thinking more in terms of open communication, clarifying the misconceptions of the Catholic Church - ones that even now I learn I misunderstood all those years.

I know - it’s a utopian idea to even think that all those denominations would suddenly wake up and think - Wow - how messed up is this? and come rushing to the Catholic Church.

Perhaps this was more of an exercise in “what would we do differently as Catholics to promote the unification of Christianity”?

So - don’t forget to Love.

Now that’s the ticket, brotha!