October Is Gay History Month In Schools

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Can you imagine having to spend and entire afternoon in history class learning about Rachel Maddow and B.D. Wong’s contributions to the world.
 
Slavonic said:
The only thing that is disordered is the backwards thinking that children have to be shielded from the fact that LGBT individuals have contributed to society and continue to so today.
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These people did not make contributions to society because of who they wanted to have sex with. Conversely, they did not make their contributions in spite of who they wanted to have sex with.

Therefore, who they want to have sex with is irrelevant and doesn’t need to be made known.
 
Kinsey is on my birthday!? I am insulted by what the Obama administration is shoving down people’s throats!
No wonder that I’m more in the mood to fight now!
 
october_baby said:
It would be refreshing to have someone contributing something to society without
wearing their sexuality on their sleeve :mad:
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Why is that made to be a defining characteristic of a person? Can someone answer me that question, because honestly, I could never understand that point. It’s not a visual characteristic like race, or a physical disability like MS or MD. Please educate me on this. Am I missing the obvious here?
 
CrimsonThorn said:
Good question.

If they contributed to science, then it was a scientist who contributed, not a “sexual orientation.”

If they contribute in the medical field, then it was a doctor who contributed, not a “sexual orientation.”

That was indeed a worthless statement made by slavonic because there are far more heterosexuals who’ve contributed to society throughout all of time. Good thing this isn’t about sexuality that “contributes to society” but rather about PEOPLE who contribute to society.

I daresay those who SEGREGATE homosexuals and reduce them to mere sexuality in order to try and prove some point are the ones who are discriminatory.
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It’s a very true point, homosexuals are people. They are whole, complex individuals just like anyone else. LGBT identity does not reduce them to mere sexuality.
PaulinVA said:
These people did not make contributions to society because of who they wanted to have sex with. Conversely, they did not make their contributions in spite of who they wanted to have sex with.

Therefore, who they want to have sex with is irrelevant and doesn’t need to be made known.
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It sounds very nice until you consider that no straight person would be expected to that. Just imagine, Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, both accomplished men, not revealing Anne or Michelle to the public on the grounds that such information is irrelevant. Should we purge the history books of Mary Todd Lincoln and Martha Washington or try to hide the fact they were married to Abraham and George, respectively? I don’t think any of those people I mentioned made their contributions to society because of or in spite of who they wanted to have sex with. Yet school children are taught it.
 
sans_Delilah said:
Simply disagreeing with homosexuals’ morality shouldn’t prompt the erasure of our influence on history.
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sans_Delilah said:
Heterosexual children will never become homosexual, and homosexual childre will alwys be homosexual.

And homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality are all normal for SOME people.

Heterosexuals’ denial of this does nothing to reduce its veracity.
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Difficult to support your premise. However, it hinges on the definition of “homosexual”. Someone with a Same Sex Attraction (who either has or has not engaged in homosexual activity)? Someone who has engaged in homosexual activity only? Someone who engages in bisexual activity?
Slavonic said:
The only thing that is disordered is the backwards thinking that children have to be shielded from the fact that LGBT individuals have contributed to society and continue to so today.
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And their sexual orientation has exactly what to do with their contributions to society?
october_baby said:
It would be refreshing to have someone contributing something to society without
wearing their sexuality on their sleeve :mad:
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👍
CrimsonThorn said:
Good question.

If they contributed to science, then it was a scientist who contributed, not a “sexual orientation.”

If they contribute in the medical field, then it was a doctor who contributed, not a “sexual orientation.”

That was indeed a worthless statement made by slavonic because there are far more heterosexuals who’ve contributed to society throughout all of time. Good thing this isn’t about sexuality that “contributes to society” but rather about PEOPLE who contribute to society.

I daresay those who SEGREGATE homosexuals and reduce them to mere sexuality in order to try and prove some point are the ones who are discriminatory.
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This cuts to the chase. Most homosexuality advocates merely want to normalize homosexual behavior in the minds of the populace. Once accomplished, Catholic theology on homosexual behavior will be targeted as a “hate crime”.
PaulinVA said:
These people did not make contributions to society because of who they wanted to have sex with. Conversely, they did not make their contributions in spite of who they wanted to have sex with.

Therefore, who they want to have sex with is irrelevant and doesn’t need to be made known.
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Exactomundo.
Slavonic said:
It’s a very true point, homosexuals are people. They are whole, complex individuals just like anyone else. LGBT identity does not reduce them to mere sexuality.
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Why is their sexual identity relevant to their contributions to society, then?
 
Slavonic said:
LGBT identity does not reduce them to mere sexuality.
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This sentence is a prime example of the oxymoron that is the LGBT movement. LGBT identity IS ALL ABOUT sexuality as the basis for one’s identity, or else they wouldn’t even use the TERM “LGBT identity”.
 
april32010 said:
what have they contributed to society ?
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if one peruses the histories of many of the individuals on the site and the O.P.,you will see that their contributions consist of the indoctrination of the culture in philosophies such as marxism and one in particular henry hay disturbed me a great deal .he was an apologist ,if not a outright promoter of nambla ,the pedophile rights group.
if the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what thirteen-, fourteen-, and fifteen-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world.
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if these is the people one wants to promote as examples to the children of this country,well if you do not expect a backlash :shrug:
 
Alfred Kinsey,this morally and emotionally crippled and stunted individual being held up as an example as anything other than filth is astounding
 
Michel Foucault ,He would praise sado-masochistic activity in interviews with the gay press, describing it as
“the real creation of new possibilities of pleasure, which people had no idea about previously”
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. yeah ,here is an exalted icon of the left.real deep thinker :rolleyes:
 
april32010 said:
Alfred Kinsey,this morally and emotionally crippled and stunted individual being held up as an example as anything other than filth is astounding
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It’s truly insulting that he and his perversions are pushed into people’s throats on my birthday!
 
Newbie2 said:
Difficult to support your premise. However, it hinges on the definition of “homosexual”. Someone with a Same Sex Attraction (who either has or has not engaged in homosexual activity)? Someone who has engaged in homosexual activity only? Someone who engages in bisexual activity?
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Sexual orientation goes beyond sex acts. It also includes nonphysical expressions of affection, a shared life, support, and commitment.
Newbie2 said:
Why is their sexual identity relevant to their contributions to society, then?
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Because it wasn’t that long ago that LGBT individuals were classified as mentally ill, anti-social near-criminals unfit for jobs or military service. It’s a way to change those unfair perceptions.
Lochias said:
This sentence is a prime example of the oxymoron that is the LGBT movement. LGBT identity IS ALL ABOUT sexuality as the basis for one’s identity, or else they wouldn’t even use the TERM “LGBT identity”.
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Our society is one that assumes everyone is straight until found or stated otherwise (I did it myself. I didn’t know John Cage was gay until I read this thread). So people who are queer have to say they are, while straight people don’t.

What’s interesting about the oxymoron you bring up is that it’s both very conservative and very radical. A conservative view would say that LGBTs don’t have to go around flaunting their being LGBT. The radical interpretation would say gay and straight and even male and female identities do not matter and all such identities should be stripped away.
 
Slavonic said:
Are belittling his work because he’s gay or because you completely miss the point of the piece?
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i understand that the rarified atmosphere that the elites travel in enables them to comprehend the deep philosophical implications of people paying to listen to 4 min. 33 sec. of silence.i understand that anyone that is intelligent enough to understand this is my better.so i will bow to their superior intellect.
 
Slavonic said:
Sexual orientation goes beyond sex acts. It also includes nonphysical expressions of affection, a shared life, support, and commitment.

And that has to do with their accomplishments that benefit society just how?

Because it wasn’t that long ago that LGBT individuals were classified as mentally ill, anti-social near-criminals unfit for jobs or military service. It’s a way to change those unfair perceptions.

So you’ve just told us that it has nothing to do with their accomplishments.

Our society is one that assumes everyone is straight until found or stated otherwise (I did it myself. I didn’t know John Cage was gay until I read this thread). So people who are queer have to say they are, while straight people don’t.

They don’t HAVE to say anything. On the contrary, there no reason to say so, unless the real reason, which has been pointed out in the CAF many times, is to “normalize” homosexual behavior.
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It appears that you have supported the notion that LGBT history month or whatever it is called, is pure and simple a tool to indoctrinate school-aged kids that homosexual behavior should be acceptable to everyone, and that anyone who speaks out against against it is a bigoted mean-spirited homophobe.
 
There is a historical city that should be included in this celebration.
 
Newbie2 said:
It appears that you have supported the notion that LGBT history month or whatever it is called, is pure and simple a tool to indoctrinate school-aged kids that homosexual behavior should be acceptable to everyone, and that anyone who speaks out against against it is a bigoted mean-spirited homophobe.
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You mean this as a sarcastic criticism of Newbie2, and yet your post is almost confirming that which you would deny. Teenagers are being taught to feel righteous in indiscriminately condemning what they are being told is unjust discrimination against LGBTQ. They aren’t being told how to discern what’s true discrimination and what’s just not being politically correct. Not in the secular schools or media at any rate.

So what can end up happening is that normal passing questioning a teen may have about his or her sexual orientation may be made into more than it is. It’s not “recruiting” but it is a force that has probably led kids who are actually heterosexual into believing they have some other orientation. If you can prove me wrong, by all means, go for it.
 
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