Odd Christogram on a prosphora stamp

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Today I have acquired a wooden prosphora stamp. The Christogram inscription on the top is INC XC instead of the usual Greek IC XC. Anyone know what the “N” stands for?

On the bottom is like NNKA but one of the Ns is inverted (like looking at it in the mirror).

Anyone care to explain why those letters are there?
 
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Today I have acquired a wooden prosphora stamp. The Christogram inscription on the top is INC XC instead of the usual Greek IC XC. Anyone know what the “N” stands for?

On the bottom is like NNKA but one of the Ns is inverted (like looking at it in the mirror).

Anyone care to explain why those letters are there?
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Is it from a Russian Source. There is a Russian and Cyrilic letter that looks like a backward Latin N which has an I Sound.
 
Is the “N” inverted on the “INC” too? Now admittedly I do not know Slavonic, but I’m willing to hazard a guess that it is the Slavonic abbreviation for Jesus on the top, and a cyrillic spelling of “Nika” on the bottom.
 
This might be from an Old Believer group. A point of grave contention in the Nikonian reforms was the change in the spelling of “Jesus”: new spelling Ісусъ; old spelling Іисусъ.
 
The stamp is from our bishop and he said it was given to him some time ago in Ukraine.
 
Christ is Born!!

Yes, the Christogram with the inverted “N” between the letters “I” and “C” comes from the Nikonian/Old Believer struggle.

Being laid up with an infected foot as I am, I’ve some time to read up on such critically important issues . . .

For example, the Old Believers included the word “Istinnago” or "true) the Creed with respect to the Holy Spirit. The only reason they did this was that the Father and the Son are referred to in this way in the same Creed (i.e. “true God from true God”). For them, it wasn’t a matter of adding a word, only providing for a better translation of the original etc.

I recommend Old Rite studies to anyone in a similar situation as myself! 😉

Alex
 
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Christ is Born!!

Yes, the Christogram with the inverted “N” between the letters “I” and “C” comes from the Nikonian/Old Believer struggle.

Being laid up with an infected foot as I am, I’ve some time to read up on such critically important issues . . .

For example, the Old Believers included the word “Istinnago” or "true) the Creed with respect to the Holy Spirit. The only reason they did this was that the Father and the Son are referred to in this way in the same Creed (i.e. “true God from true God”). For them, it wasn’t a matter of adding a word, only providing for a better translation of the original etc.

I recommend Old Rite studies to anyone in a similar situation as myself! 😉

Alex
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Thank you Alex! Is this stamp worthy of being used in our Church then?
 
Іисусъ. Ісусъ

I think this is gotten backwards here. Slavonic spelling held by the Old Believers was the old form with shorter spelling - Ісусъ . Patriarch Nikon converted to better transliteration of Greek spelling of name - Іисусъ . All of this is well seen in very receent movie or TV serial - Raskol - from Channel 1 russia. All other conflicts of two-finger opposing to three-finger cross-signing, spelling of name of Christ are shown in this serial.
 
In fact Nikon orthographia is very similar to Greek ΙΗΣΟΥΣ - Jesus - from which name Jesuit priest shorten to IHS as name Jesus!
 
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In fact Nikon orthographia is very similar to Greek ΙΗΣΟΥΣ - Jesus - from which name Jesuit priest shorten to IHS as name Jesus!
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Very true, sir!

I have a deep respect for the Old Rite tradition, even though there are aspects to it that I feel are just far too “extreme in outward mannerisms.”

Their deep personal piety and self-discipline are values we would all do well to emulate.

Khrystos Razhdayetsia! (I understand His Beatitude Metropolitan Volodymyr of Kyiv is making good progress in his recovery and that all Orthodox Churches in Ukraine have united in praying for his return to health - as well as Greek-Catholic).

Alex
 
Дуже приэмно, дякую! very kindly thanks!

Yes Mitropolit Volodymyr Kyiv and all Ukraina has heavy illness at 76 yrs of
life! Famous israel physician help him! Served liturgy 9-1 for first occasion in 3 months’ Holy Synod will make some decision when meets late January! Very much needs prayers!
 
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