"Offering it up"

[coco2]

I am hoping this is in the right thread. I know that people can “offer up” their pain and sufferings in reparation for their sins and the sins of others. Is it possible for a person to “offer up” someone else’s pain in reparation for that person’s sins. Fro example, right now there is a family member very ill and in great pain. Can I ask the Lord to use that pain in reparation for the sins of this sick person, or can only the person who is suffering do this.

 

[melchesidechpio]

I am hoping this is in the right thread. I know that people can “offer up” their pain and sufferings in reparation for their sins and the sins of others. Is it possible for a person to “offer up” someone else’s pain in reparation for that person’s sins. Fro example, right now there is a family member very ill and in great pain. Can I ask the Lord to use that pain in reparation for the sins of this sick person, or can only the person who is suffering do this.

I don’t see why not. Some saints have

 

[jtodisco]

Coco2, I’m pretty sure that only the person who is suffering may offer up their suffering in reparation for sins.

However, I would add two things. First, suffering that is offered up isn’t restricted to physical suffering. So you said a family member is very ill and suffering, this must be causing you some distress for your loved one. You could offer up your emotional suffering if you chose. Second, if this family member of yours who is suffering is religious and you think they might be open to offering their suffering for sins then you could cautiously and politely suggest the idea. I suggest this second point only hesitantly because it could send the wrong message and make someone think you feel they are exceptionally sinful or something like that. So I would only mention this to your relative if you are nearly certain it would be something they would want to do.

Also, I am very sorry to hear that your loved one is ill and in pain. If you haven’t already perhaps you would be interested in posting a thread in the prayer intentions section for this person? Either way, know that I will remember them in my prayers today. God bless you.

 

[Myqyl]

I have no idea what the answer to your question is, but it brings up a question that I have.

For 6 years now I’ve had cronic, constant pain in one of my feet. I’ve learned to deal with it and refuse to do the drugs offered by doctors because I like being able to think…

Anyway, several times over the last 6 years I have seriously considered asking our Lord for Healing. I feel absolutely certain that all I would need to do is ask. I could never explain how I know this, but I am absolutely certain of it. However, everytime I’m really close to asking for Healing of my foot, I remember what happened to the Feet of Jesus… I’ve never been able to ask… it seems so, well, childish to complain about my foot when our Lord allowed nails to be driven into His feet for me.

So here’s my question. I hadn’t heard of “offering up pain” before. How is it done? Is it only for reparations of sin or can I offer it up as a prayer for my brother to have a conversion back to the faith? Or for a conversion of an abortionist, or for the strength of women faced with the “choice” of abortion to choose life?

Is there a prayer I need to say? A novena? Light candles? I have plenty of pain and am excited about the prospect of putting it to a constructive use.

Thanks all and God bless…

Mike

 

[Crumpy]

This is a good place to recommend the Ignatius Study Bible, which offers some analysis of the merit of suffering.

The ISB says that suffering is part of our “mission” as believers. I cannot find a verse which recommends “offering up” suffering. I think that Romans 8:17 says something about suffering being a sign of our union with Jesus Chist.

Collosians 1:24 quotes St. Paul as “rejoicing” in his sufferings…on behalf of Christ’s mystical body, the Church.

Jesus’ suffering was an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

 

[Sum_Fidelis]

Dear friend. I don’t understand Your question,or not all of it,so my answer will be only a half one. As a parent I know that when children are sick,we often wish we could take their pain and suffer for them,but I think that is more a normal reaction then a Christian thing. I don’t think it is against what the Church teaches,so if You feel like it would be the right thing to do,do it. Sorry I can’t help You further. God bless.

 

[crystal_waters]

I am hoping this is in the right thread. I know that people can “offer up” their pain and sufferings in reparation for their sins and the sins of others. Is it possible for a person to “offer up” someone else’s pain in reparation for that person’s sins. Fro example, right now there is a family member very ill and in great pain. Can I ask the Lord to use that pain in reparation for the sins of this sick person, or can only the person who is suffering do this.

of course you can…in the prayerbook prayers and heavenly promises …from tan books and publishers …its a book of prayers that came about through apparitions to saints and holy people,like the rosary, chaplets etc…and there is a prayer that jesus asked to be said to offer up all the crosses and sufferings of the whole world…

its a big spiritual treasure that is just going to wastre…so yeah you can do that if you like:thumbsup:

 

[crystal_waters]

I have no idea what the answer to your question is, but it brings up a question that I have.

For 6 years now I’ve had cronic, constant pain in one of my feet. I’ve learned to deal with it and refuse to do the drugs offered by doctors because I like being able to think…

Anyway, several times over the last 6 years I have seriously considered asking our Lord for Healing. I feel absolutely certain that all I would need to do is ask. I could never explain how I know this, but I am absolutely certain of it. However, everytime I’m really close to asking for Healing of my foot, I remember what happened to the Feet of Jesus… I’ve never been able to ask… it seems so, well, childish to complain about my foot when our Lord allowed nails to be driven into His feet for me.

So here’s my question. I hadn’t heard of “offering up pain” before. How is it done? Is it only for reparations of sin or can I offer it up as a prayer for my brother to have a conversion back to the faith? Or for a conversion of an abortionist, or for the strength of women faced with the “choice” of abortion to choose life?

Is there a prayer I need to say? A novena? Light candles? I have plenty of pain and am excited about the prospect of putting it to a constructive use.

Thanks all and God bless…

Mike

mike…you may be interested in joining the apostleship of prayer apostleshipofprayer.org/
you say an offering prayer every morning and it offers up eveything of that day to god, all your prayers , works, joys, and suffering, it turns your whole day in to prayer

 

[Carlan]

Anyway, several times over the last 6 years I have seriously considered asking our Lord for Healing. I feel absolutely certain that all I would need to do is ask. I could never explain how I know this, but I am absolutely certain of it. However, everytime I’m really close to asking for Healing of my foot, I remember what happened to the Feet of Jesus… I’ve never been able to ask… it seems so, well, childish to complain about my foot when our Lord allowed nails to be driven into His feet for me.

How beautiful this kind of prayer is, I’d say it is the kind Saints are made of.
And why not offer it to Jesus for the reparation of sin in the world, It would be the Catholic thing to do,God bless all and Peace, Carlan