Official definitions of scandal outside of the catechism

  • Thread starter Thread starter thed0ctor
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
T

thed0ctor

Guest
Hello,

I’m looking for a definition/declaration of scandal in either an encyclical, ecumenical council, or official document promulgated by a pope or council before Vatican II. I’m debating a sedevecantist and can’t use the catechism promulgated by Pope John Paul II.

Could someone point me in the right direction?

God bless,

Patrick
 
The first mistake is debating anyone.

The second mistake is debating a sedevacantist.

And in general, I find the word “scandal” thrown around with undue liberty, as most people don’t know what is going on in someone else’s life. and if they don’t know, being “scandalized” is nore a figment of their overwrought imagination than facts.

Wikipedia can provide an adequate definition or simply typing in “definition of scandal”.
 
Modern Catholic Dictionary:

SCANDAL. Any action or its omission, not necessarily sinful in itself, that is likely to induce another to do something morally wrong. Direct scandal, also called diabolical, has the deliberate intention to induce another to sin. In indirect scandal a person does something that he or she foresees will at least likely lead another to commit sin, but this is rather tolerated than positively desired. (Etym. Latin scandalum, stumbling block.)
 
Modern Catholic dictionary meets none of the specific source requirements requested by the OP
 
Would the Baltimore Catechism suffice?
Q. 1279. What is scandal?

A. Scandal is any sinful word, deed or omission that disposes others to sin, or lessens their respect for God and holy religion.
Click to expand...
 
All, thank you for the responses thus far!
adgloriam said:
Catholic Encyclopedia 1917
Click to expand...
While being published before 1917 I don’t believe (and correct me if I’m wrong) the encyclopedia was ever promulgated by a pope or ecumenical council. Just a resource put together.
Usige said:
Would the Baltimore Catechism suffice?
Click to expand...
I did a bit of digging and couldn’t find anything from a pope or ecumenical council on this catechism. I did learn that the Baltimore councils were plenary but I’m still trying to read up on whether that has the same or comparable authority to an ecumenical council. Do you happen to know what the authority is on a plenary council?
 
Perhaps you would prefer I put it more bluntly? Never argue with a fool; an outside observer may not be able to tell who is who.

The first trigger word was “debate”. That might be nice for high school speech class, but in the real world, it doesn’t accomplish anything beyond the feeling of “Well, I really told them so!”.

Evangelizing is not debating. And I have yet to find a sedevacantist who had even a scintilla of an open mind; they are absolutely convinced they know the Truth and the rest of us are all fools and liars.

It has nothing to do with truth fearing scrutiny. It has to do with an absolute waste of time.

In dealing with a sedevacantist, one might want to ask questions which might (in the slightest possibility) lead the individual to question their own absolutist positions,. Debating them? Time would be better spent in prayer.
 
It is hard to dialogue with anyone whose mind is closed to facts. However, it would likely be more charitable than a debate.
 
I got these out of an online dictionary

a disgraceful or discreditable action, circumstance, etc.
2.
an offense caused by a fault or misdeed.
3.
damage to reputation; public disgrace.
4.
defamatory talk; malicious gossip.
5.
a person whose conduct brings disgrace or offense.
 
from psychology today
What exactly is scandal? Scandal derives from a Greek word for “snare,” implying that one is “snared” into moral failure. Scandal was originally a term used to denote a discredit brought upon religion by “unseemly conduct in a religious person,” especially if it encourages a lapse of faith in another (Merriam Webster).
Click to expand...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top