Official Definitions of Sola Scriptura

[Nicea325]

Except the Orthodox don’t agree with you. And, neither do protestants. Peter is not the rock. His confession was. Read a little. It won’t hurt. I promise.

The Orthodox of now,not prior to 1054 AD. Read some actual ancient history,you might learn your current belief is exactly that…current. Might put a dent in your current view,but it will not hurt you.

 

[Nicea325]

You didn’t ask a question on this thread. Just comments.And my point was, your Primacy of the Bishop of Rome means nothing to non Roman Catholics.

U-huh…just like the Nicene Creed meant nothing to the Arians…and?

 

[AbideWithMe]

it’s not personal interpretation, it is the final authority.​

Abortion is not specifically mentioned in the bible, without personal interpretation you could not have an opinion on this crime against humanity.

Abortion is subject to the rules of natural law.

 

[JonNC]

Gerhard Maier (Lutheran)

“Nowadays a broad consensus has emerged which — in accordance with the words of the text — applies the promise to Peter as a person. On this point liberal (H. J. Holtzmann, E. Schweiger) and conservative (Cullmann, Flew) theologians agree, as well as representatives of Roman Catholic exegesis.” (“The Church in the Gospel of Matthew: Hermeneutical Analysis of the Current Debate,” Biblical Interpretation and Church Text and Context (Flemington Markets, NSW: Paternoster Press, 1984), page 58, JPK pages 16-17)

(cont.)

I actually have said in this forum before that I think the idea of the Rock being only St. Peter’s confession of faith requires a fair amount of theological gymnastics, so I would agree with Cullman and Maier on this point. I don’t think that necessarily means, 1) papal supremacy, or 2) the absolute necessity of apostolic succession.

Jon

 

[concretecamper]

Abortion is subject to the rules of natural law.

I pray for the day all Christians accept this truth.

 

[KP3243]

Abortion is subject to the rules of natural law.

We get that but the secular world makes all sorts of exemptions so it can go against natural law and they will even quote Saint Augustine in making the case for abortion.

 

[steido01]

We get that but the secular world makes all sorts of exemptions so it can go against natural law and they will even quote Saint Augustine in making the case for abortion.

If you’re referring to Augustine’s use of the word “quickening,” it was based on the faulty scientific knowledge of the times. Had he known that life began well before “quickening,” Augustine would not have thought what he did. Remind our secular friends of this next time they give you a hard time.

 

[Randy_Carson]

I actually have said in this forum before that I think the idea of the Rock being only St. Peter’s confession of faith requires a fair amount of theological gymnastics, so I would agree with Cullman and Maier on this point. I don’t think that necessarily means, 1) papal supremacy, or 2) the absolute necessity of apostolic succession.

Jon

Baby steps, Jon.

 

[KP3243]

If you’re referring to Augustine’s use of the word “quickening,” it was based on the faulty scientific knowledge of the times. Had he known that life began well before “quickening,” Augustine would not have thought what he did. Remind our secular friends of this next time they give you a hard time.

Nancy Pelosi conveniently took this piece by Augustine in the 3rd century as the official teaching of the Church to help convince herself and others that abortion is ok. My friend’s dad tried to make this same claim as to why abortion should be legal for the first three months and I took him to town about it and my friend and her family all consider themselves devout Catholics. I don’t want to judge people’s hearts or say that I am more Catholic but clearly Augustine was not the last to write about abortion and Humane Vitae is the official Church teaching. As a Catholic you cannot pick and choose on this one but a lot of Catholics like to and it is upsetting.

 

[aidanbradypop]

One of the challenges of dialogue between Catholics and Protestants is coming up with common definitions of theological terms, and one of the most common disagreements concerns what is meant by the term sola scriptura.

Protestants are frequently frustrated by what they believe to be Catholic misunderstandings of what sola scriptura is or is not. Catholics are frustrated by the fact that different Protestant groups seem to define the term differently.

Therefore, I would like to ask: What is the official definition of sola scriptura used by your faith community? Please provide the name of your denomination along with the definition. If you have a link to an official website where you get the definition, that would be great.

Thanks.

There is an official definition?

My Church does not go by Scripture alone. I believe Scripture to be a foundation but not only Scripture.

Good luck at finding the answer!

 

[pablope]

I 2) the absolute necessity of apostolic succession.

Jon

Jon…would you disagree with Clement of Rome:

And thus preaching through countries and cities, they appointed the first-fruits [of their labours], having first proved them by the Spirit, to be bishops and deacons of those who should afterwards believe. Nor was this any new thing, since indeed many ages before it was written concerning bishops and deacons. For thus saith the Scripture a certain place, “I will appoint their bishops s in righteousness, and their deacons in faith.”

Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect fore-knowledge of this, they appointed those [ministers] already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry.

And how would you apply this verse today if there is no apostolic succession:

1 John 4
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world… 6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit[a] of truth and the spirit of falsehood

Is it everyone for himself to determine what is truth?